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Seattle wants a 2nd rd pick for Earl Thomas. The Packers have TWO first round picks. Earl Thomas immediately upgrades the secondary and makes HaHa more expendable...not to mention the fact he’s a way better player. The Packers can withstand giving up a 2nd rd pick. Slide Earl to SS and then when HCD leaves resign Thomas and move him back to FS.
 

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I'd be ok with ETIII. I think our safeties are fairly weak, Dix included.
 

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I'd be ok with ETIII. I think our safeties are fairly weak, Dix included.
Agreed dix seems lazy known for his big hits in college and is a ***** on the field now I’d trade right now! Lol
 

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I'd sign him too and cost us nothing in terms of picks. anything to have our best option at safety be someone other than HHCD right now. He ended the year ******* it, and I get it was preseason, but practice like play kid. He was ******* it again all preseason when he was out there. He's capable of more, but a guy that only turns it on when he feels like it, is worthless on a team. He better get on course quickly. We have a great defensive front, mediocre middle and "could" have a a great back half of the defense. But our safeties are not capping it off, they appear to be a big 'ol hole in it.
 

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Seattle wants a 2nd rd pick for Earl Thomas. The Packers have TWO first round picks. Earl Thomas immediately upgrades the secondary and makes HaHa more expendable...not to mention the fact he’s a way better player. The Packers can withstand giving up a 2nd rd pick. Slide Earl to SS and then when HCD leaves resign Thomas and move him back to FS.

I first want to say that I don't think this is a stupid idea and I understand the motivation.

Just to balance the perspective, however, I want to point out that Thomas is 29, has 8 seasons of NFL play on his body, has been less durable of late, and would require a contract extension after this season. You'd not only have to invest the pick, but a sizable contract in a 30 year old safety. So you'd be paying a premium probably for his age 30-33 seasons, where you're almost certainly going to start to see diminishing ability and durability.

So it's a complicated idea. I'm not really certain I would go for it. And lastly, if you were to make this move and then put Thomas anywhere other than FS, then I think you're blowing it.
 

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If the Packers feel the need to upgrade the Safety position, which I think they should, Eric Reid makes THE most sense IMO. The guy is 26 and would come cheaper than ET. Don't be phoning ET Home.....phone ER!
 

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Jerellh528. Care to tell us why you disagree? You may have in another thread and I missed it and if i did I am sorry but I keep seeing your red X every time someone suggests we should sign Reid.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer and if that is it then fine, I have no gripe with you or your opinion at all. I'd just like to know. Is it because of the protesting?
 

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Jerellh528. Care to tell us why you disagree? You may have in another thread and I missed it and if i did I am sorry but I keep seeing your red X every time someone suggests we should sign Reid.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer and if that is it then fine, I have no gripe with you or your opinion at all. I'd just like to know. Is it because of the protesting?

Yup.
 

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Jerellh528. Care to tell us why you disagree? You may have in another thread and I missed it and if i did I am sorry but I keep seeing your red X every time someone suggests we should sign Reid.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer and if that is it then fine, I have no gripe with you or your opinion at all. I'd just like to know. Is it because of the protesting?

At least I can turn one of his multiple Red X's into an agree......He has chosen to "silently protest" my desire to have Eric Reid on the team, by kneeling his X on my posts. ;)
 

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Thomas was the most important part of that legion of boom. Sherman goes down, no worry... Cam goes down and the world keeps turning... Thomas goes down, and it turned into. The legion of poop...

I'd love to see how he could direct and lead our young secondary into another legion of boom situation...

It would mean we don't sign haha next year though... One year of two blue chip safety though....

Maybe Seattle would be interwsted in haha for Thomas, straight up?
 
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You guys are forgetting that the Packers have TWO picks in the first round next year. Who cares if Thomas is 29...the guy still flys to the ball and he’s a more than capable tackler. One of those picks can be used to draft his successor if you think 29 is old. Or they could resign HAHA, and stay mediocre at the safety position.
 

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You guys are forgetting that the Packers have TWO picks in the first round next year. Who cares if Thomas is 29...the guy still flys to the ball and he’s a more than capable tackler. One of those picks can be used to draft his successor if you think 29 is old. Or they could resign HAHA, and stay mediocre at the safety position.

I would consider it a failure to trade a 2nd round pick for Thomas and then not sign him. I don’t think you can justify that kind of investment in a one year rental. But the extension would be quite risky in itself as you’re committing big money to a guy based on what he’s done in his prime. But the years you’re getting are more likely to be declining than more prime seasons.
 

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Doesn't sound like he's going anywhere anyway. Here's to hoping Ha Ha pulls his head out of his *** and plays with some actual effort. Shows up on time and not a step behind and actually hits and wraps up instead of looking like he wants to save himself. It's all we have back there. I'm hoping the Dline can put on so much pressure it doesn't matter. He can eat up his air mailed balls he does well with if we can't depend on him to make the play himself.
 

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I would consider it a failure to trade a 2nd round pick for Thomas and then not sign him. I don’t think you can justify that kind of investment in a one year rental. But the extension would be quite risky in itself as you’re committing big money to a guy based on what he’s done in his prime. But the years you’re getting are more likely to be declining than more prime seasons.
I agree with your assessment. How old is Thomas now? SS requires a very athletic player, and that athleticism can decline quickly (see CMIII). So no, a trade here is not in the best interests of the team. With Mack out of the picture, a better scenario is for Gluten to package those two picks and move up to the top 12 or 15 next year and take one of the best edge rushers. (Although I understand the class of 2019 will be strong with edge rushers.)
 
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I would consider it a failure to trade a 2nd round pick for Thomas and then not sign him. I don’t think you can justify that kind of investment in a one year rental. But the extension would be quite risky in itself as you’re committing big money to a guy based on what he’s done in his prime. But the years you’re getting are more likely to be declining than more prime seasons.

That’s why you sign Thomas for 3-4 yrs.
 
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I agree with your assessment. How old is Thomas now? SS requires a very athletic player, and that athleticism can decline quickly (see CMIII). So no, a trade here is not in the best interests of the team. With Mack out of the picture, a better scenario is for Gluten to package those two picks and move up to the top 12 or 15 next year and take one of the best edge rushers. (Although I understand the class of 2019 will be strong with edge rushers.)

Now way do you pkg two first rd picks unless you KNOW what you are getting. The only time you do that is if you are trading for a a proven guy imo. I dont think a rookie is worth that.
 

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That’s why you sign Thomas for 3-4 yrs.

Yeah, I get it. You have to if you spend that high of a pick on him. But the risk is you're signing him for ages 30-33 or 34. So you're not getting peak Early Thomas, but you're having to pay peak Earl Thomas level money. That could be a problem.

This whole thing is probably moot because reports indicate that the Seahawks turned down a 2nd round pick for him.
 

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ill take earl over haha any day of the week. I dont know if its just me but it seems that haha is always out of positions, he does more chasing a play then reading a play.
 
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