More than 50 years ago means you are excluding Lombardi's championship teams along with the Jets, the Chiefs, and the Colts. And from what I recall when watching those SBs the defenses had as much if not more to do with winning the game than the offenses.
I know you say that but that research we’ve displayed only showed O vs D rankings really hadn’t changed that much for the SB winner. Certainly not enough to erase the history before you were born
I know you say that but that research we’ve displayed only showed O vs D rankings really hadn’t changed that much for the SB winner. Certainly not enough to erase the history before you were born
I’m sorry you T’d that up perfectly!
It’s crazy it doesn’t seem that long ago Majkowski was pretty good. Actually Lynn ****ey wasn’t too bad in most cases. He had great hair
That guy was always having surgery.
Yes, it did happen right around then. The Packers played the Raiders in Oakland and a near record number of offensive holding penalties were called on both sides. Think the score was like 18-14. Ugly football and the league knew it. In addition to the no hands the penalty itself was 15 yards before it went to 10. But I did like it that O linemen blocked with closed fists and locked in forearms. Many of the holding calls of today are against wide receivers and tight ends. If they had some of these fundamentals less would be called. I still believe defense wins championships. In 1961 the Pack shut out the Giants. In 62 they forced 3 turnovers and gave the Giant offense nothing. In 65 they held Jim Brown to 50 yards rushing. In 66 it was Dave Robinson forcing Don Meredith to throw the INT to ice the game. In SB 1 it was Willie Woods INT after a blitz that turned the game. Even in the Ice Bowl the Cowboys offense produced only 7 points. In SB 3 the Jets held the might Colts to 7 points. In SB 5 Chuck Howley's INT set up the winning FG. Yes, defense did the trick back then and it still does it now.
Great recollection. Defense is forgotten way too often. It isn't necessarily the total stats line that makes the difference, but in-game plays, like those you're mentioning, that turn what could have been losses into wins. That's why I always shake my head and think that it's an opportunity squandered, when a defender can't hang onto a ball he should have intercepted. You can never extend more plays for the other team's offense. It will bite you in the keester!
Like the Kaepernick pass that Micah Hyde could not hang onto in the last minutes of that playoff game in 2013?
Exactly the point. In an awful lot of cases we can point at one play and show that it was the singular play that lost the game, or won it.
Excellent points. Even though it's not the same defense, Barry has the same philosophy as Fritz Shurmur, who I thought was one of the best DCs the Packers ever had. At least in my time, since the late 40s. The jury is still out as to whether or not the Barry defense works as well, but there's a similarity in philosophy.
I don't think he's a long term fix either. It's just his philosophy is similar to Fritz. I don't believe the Packers should be playing a 3-4 for openers, because we just don't seem to get the kind of guys that can play 3 down who can create pressure, without constant help from 1 or two LBs, and when that happens, we're vulnerable up the middle to the point that 15 to 20 chunks are nauseatingly happening.
I agree 100%! I always like the 4-3. And after watching years of our defenses get torn up with 3-4s I wish we would change.
How about a 1-5-5? Would that confuse them or what!?
That's true based on the limitations of your roster. Not all players fit into the same mold. That's why the Packers didn't keep Aaron Kampmann. He was great as a down DE, but couldn't hack it as an OLB in the 3-4. But, if you believe the players would be the same, I agree based on roster, but that doesn't mean they really meet the criteria you hope for with the defense.
