CB Nate Hobbs Signed In FA 2025

[mradtke66]

I can play that game with essentially every single pick though over the years. Always a “better” guy that could have been with very few exceptions.

Hindsight is one of the worst things in the world IMO because it just drives ya nuts if you focus on it too much.

I am neither complaining about passing on him or praising it--though if the rumor that we passed on him only because he's left-handed is true, I will raise my eyebrows at the decision.

As I clearly stated, my point is that Creed would not be a cap casualty had we drafted him. Center is the cheapest o-line position, he's made the pro bowl 3 times, been All-Pro 1, All-Pro 2, AND he's only 25.

 

[gopkrs]

Hindsight or not. That was horrible. Totally whiffed

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

What I am meaning is there is ZERO way of knowing how things all alter if things changed. There is zero way for anyone to know how it plays out, perhaps zero decisions are different leading into this off season, or perhaps everything is…do we ever go get Rasul if Stokes doesn’t get hurt…which trickles into potentially draft pick usage…which may impact whether X is even here…lots of things changed just by one difference potential.

Agree

I get a kick out of the "Would have, should have, could have fans." "Gute should have drafted these successful players and avoided/dumped these cap suckers." Hindsight is always 20/20, but not always correct either.

Looking at a players past history with one team and trying to insert it into the "If he had just been a Packer" situation, is kind of comical. There are so many factors that could change what said player did or didn't do, for the better and the worse. We are talking about humans, that are influenced by many things around them. What if the 49'ers had drafted Aaron Rodgers? Or the Falcons had kept Brett Favre? Is everyone 100% sure that both players would have had the careers that they ended up having? I am not.

For several reasons I hate guaranteed money. With the biggest reason being what I said above. There is ZERO guarantees that you will get what you pay for in the NFL. The players are somewhat protected from getting "underpaid" for their performance with the "Performance-Based Pay system. It was just announced the other day that players that out performed their contracts will receive over $452 million in Performance-Based Pay for their performance during the 2024 season.

Should the NFL have a reverse system? One that takes money away from players for under performing on their contracts? Maybe put that money into a ticket fund, to reduce ticket prices paid by fans?

2024 Performance-Based Pay Distributions Announced | NFL Football Operations

operations.nfl.com

 

[Sanguine camper]

Eh, the trickle effect and impact of all things would change though. If Stokes doesn’t get injured and doesn’t regress he likely gets his fifth year picked up which isn’t cheap or even more so signed to a big deal.

Money impact of it all could have made Creed a cap casualty for all we know.

2021 was disappointing for sure but Amari was the only start to finish bust IMO, stokes was a mixture of regressing and then injury…but we got a useful starter in Newman for a window (he just never progressed), Myers gave us years of starting level (not more) play at center and Slaton and McDuffie overshot their picks for sure.

It might be one of Gutes worst to most people but there are some franchises in the same run since 2018 would kill for that much return.

Going out into free agency to fix holes in the roster is perhaps the most expensive solution. It costs big coin to sign guys to their second contract but that is generally less expensive than getting into the bidding war of free agency.

The benefit of signing younger free agents in the 24-26 age range is that you can judge their potential future performance by their actual NFL film rather than projecting a college player. I'm not against free agent signings by any means but it's ultimately a solution for poor drafting.

Amari Rodgers was no doubt a massive bust. It may have been Gute's worst pick.

I can play that game with essentially every single pick though over the years. Always a “better” guy that could have been with very few exceptions.

Hindsight is one of the worst things in the world IMO because it just drives ya nuts if you focus on it too much.

Good chance Creed isn’t a cap casualty if all other things worked out the exact same, but who knows.

Pro bowl caliber players in the middle of their career are rarely a cap casualty for anyone. Had Gute taken Humphrey, he would've been resigned. Gute does a very good job of determining who to resign and who to let go. Perhaps resigning Humphrey could've caused other players to be let go, but it wouldn't have been anyone that valuable.

 

[DoURant]

....and Creed could have come to Green Bay and blew his knee out, or had a career ending injury. Chances are he wouldn't have, but different place, different situations, different outcomes.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

Ah yes, the good ol' Butterfly Effect.

 

[tynimiller]

....and Creed could have come to Green Bay and blew his knee out, or had a career ending injury. Chances are he wouldn't have, but different place, different situations, different outcomes.

Imagine if Bakh hadn’t initially hurt his knee…

 

[DoURant]

Imagine if Bakh hadn’t initially hurt his knee…

Imagine that, plus if we would have drafted Justin Jefferson, won 2 or 3 more Super Bowls, all with AR12 at the helm, and everyone still loved him, because Packers fans love a winner... Imagine

 

[Sanguine camper]

Imagine if Bakh hadn’t initially hurt his knee…

Very true that you can't lose a HOF caliber player like Bakhtiari and expect to win a SB. Horrible luck. I always thought that the Packers would've won the SB in 2014 with a healthy HOF caliber Nick Collins at safety.