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Stafford already looks likely to be the best trade. Lions being Lions still.
Not sure on worst.
Not sure on worst.
Best and worst trade of 2021-22 season
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El Guapo
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IDK - I think that the Sam Darnold trade is going to give the Stafford trade a run for its money. There is a lot of season left to play. Stafford certainly went into a much more playoff-ready situation in LA versus Darnold in Carolina.
Also - While the Bojorquez trade may not be **** because he is a punter, what a giant improvement it has made to this team. I can't remember any shanks but he has definitely hit some gems into the corners so far.
Also - While the Bojorquez trade may not be **** because he is a punter, what a giant improvement it has made to this team. I can't remember any shanks but he has definitely hit some gems into the corners so far.
AmishMafia
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Worst maybe the Stafford trade for the Lions.
Not because they gave up a franchise quality player, but the move exposed the fact that a team that has lacked a great QB for basically its entire existence- had one for the last 15 years. It's just that nobody knew. He was wasted on an organization that has no idea how to build a team.
And if you counter with they got all those picks . . . So what? How many of their top picks (many top 10 overall) go on to obscurity?
My advice? Start at the top. Fire all the football people and find a knew president and rebuild your organization.
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- The Stafford trade was an "all-in" move, getting LAR a much better QB for their already playoff-ready team. The (2) 1st Round picks in '22 & '23 should be late in the round so not overly high-value picks (similar to "the usual" Packer picks at the end of the round). The Lions knew they were going nowhere so why not acquire more picks?
- I think Carolina actually got a much better deal (Darnold) for their 2nd, 4th ('22) & 6th ('21) round picks. He's a young guy (24) with starting experience and still on his rookie contract. He's a better QB than Carolina has had in a dozen years (or since their inception in '95?) and should be their franchise QB for another 10 years or more barring injury.
- Denver got a "bridge" QB at a price of only $3Mil when they received Bridgewater for a 6th rounder. He's the best QB Denver has had since '15 with Manning.
- I think Carolina actually got a much better deal (Darnold) for their 2nd, 4th ('22) & 6th ('21) round picks. He's a young guy (24) with starting experience and still on his rookie contract. He's a better QB than Carolina has had in a dozen years (or since their inception in '95?) and should be their franchise QB for another 10 years or more barring injury.
- Denver got a "bridge" QB at a price of only $3Mil when they received Bridgewater for a 6th rounder. He's the best QB Denver has had since '15 with Manning.
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It's shocking to see the weak talent level of the Detroit roster after all these years of drafting at the top of the draft. It's ALL about the quality of management at the top of the organization just like it is in every NFL city.
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I agree 100%.
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The poor management is due to the Ford family and their inability to identify and hire quality people.
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Orlando Brown Jr, while not a glamorous trade, seems to have been a steal for the Chiefs. They traded essentially a 2nd round pick (after all the dust settled) for a OT with a Pro Bowl resume who is protecting Mahomes. Too bad he can't keep Mahomes from throwing INTs.
It is hard not to still make Stafford the top choice for best trade of 2021 so far, but I still maintain that Bojorquez is a close 2nd.
Bojorquez is in the top 10 for net yards, is fantastic at directional punting, and hasn't muffed a punt. The worst that you could say is that Ray Finkle'd the laces on at least one of Mason Crosby's FG attempts in the Bengals game. Punters are like the OL, if you aren't hearing their name it's a good thing. After JK Scott, that's exactly what the Packers needed. The times that we are hearing Corey's name, it is because he is doing something exceptional such as launching 82 yard punts (62 net on the touchback) like he did on Sunday against the Bears.
It is hard not to still make Stafford the top choice for best trade of 2021 so far, but I still maintain that Bojorquez is a close 2nd.
Bojorquez is in the top 10 for net yards, is fantastic at directional punting, and hasn't muffed a punt. The worst that you could say is that Ray Finkle'd the laces on at least one of Mason Crosby's FG attempts in the Bengals game. Punters are like the OL, if you aren't hearing their name it's a good thing. After JK Scott, that's exactly what the Packers needed. The times that we are hearing Corey's name, it is because he is doing something exceptional such as launching 82 yard punts (62 net on the touchback) like he did on Sunday against the Bears.
realitybytez
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a lot of love here for darnold - a guy with the fifth lowest passer rating in the nfl (79.7). but hey, he does have more passing yards than rodgers. so he's got that going for him. (which is nice).
Pkrjones
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The Carolina offense revolves around McCaffrey and with him on IR (for the last 2 years) that means a new offensive plan. They drafted some weapons (WR Marshall in the 2nd, TE Tremble 3rd, RB Hubbard 4th, WR Smith 6th) to go with WR's Robby Anderson & DJ Moore but that's not a very good or experienced group, comparative to other NFL rosters. Darnold is 24 w/ starting experience and is on a rookie contract ~ so should still be developing AND allow cap room for more talent-acquisitions. No idea if their OL is any good at pass blocking, guessing they're adequate at run blocking to open holes for McCaffrey?
realitybytez
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i still don't see darnold as anything more than what he is now and/or what he was with the jets.
El Guapo
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Carolina looked good early but has lost three of their stars (McCaffrey on offense, two on defense) which has hurt them. They don't appear to have the depth of a team like the Packers.
realitybytez
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funny thing is i was told repeatedly that the packers have no depth.
El Guapo
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Yup, there are a lot of chicken littles on this forum who constantly think that the sky is falling. That said, it speaks to a lot of facets of this team (players, coaches, culture) that the backups are playing well enough to keep the wins coming.
There was that one a few games back that went OOB about 25 yards upfield.
Being behind in games will do that to a QBs stats. Last game his WR's couldn't hold the ball if it had handles.
McCaffrey: "Holes? I don't need no stinkin' holes to run through!"
El Guapo
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I don't remember a short punt but you are probably right.
BTW - that pumpkin in your avatar is creepy!
BTW - that pumpkin in your avatar is creepy!
It isn't a pumpkin. It's a hollowed out apple tree stump from a very old and very large apple tree that had died. We were burning it in our fire pit. If you zoom in enough times you can see it clearly.
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Probably referring to this one:
(6:20 - 1st) C.Bojorquez punts 31 yards to CIN 49, Center-H.Bradley, out of bounds.
El Guapo
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That makes sense. I wasn't able to watch that game but did hear the last quarter and OT on the radio.
Pkrjones
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Wow, 7 weeks into the '21 season and this didn't age well. Darnold has proven to be trash and can't lead his team to the dining hall, much less the end zone so those '22 2nd & 4th rounders (as well as the '21 6th) were completely wasted. If Carolina has any hopes for '21 playoffs they'll need to make a serious bid for Watson & hope he isn't sitting in prison (or Goodell's crap-list) soon.
Saw the week 6 Denver game and Bridgewater, and their entire offense, is nothing to pin any hopes on. Many of their WR's are FA in '22 so they desperately need a QB & 2-3 NFL-caliber WR's to have any chance to compete in '22 and beyond.
At this point the Stafford (& the Packer's Bojorquez) trade looks like the best that have happened.
El Guapo
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Bojorquez for El Presidente
He crushed a punt from the back of his own endzone, under pressure from a punt block attempt by Washington, that was fair caught around the 45 yard line if I remember - a 50 yard punt. He also planted that ball on the 1" yard line that bounced out to the 2yd line. He doesn't seem to be crushing it statistically, but he is pretty much everything that we have wanted and more.
Viva la Bojorquez! Viva la Bojorquez!
He crushed a punt from the back of his own endzone, under pressure from a punt block attempt by Washington, that was fair caught around the 45 yard line if I remember - a 50 yard punt. He also planted that ball on the 1" yard line that bounced out to the 2yd line. He doesn't seem to be crushing it statistically, but he is pretty much everything that we have wanted and more.
Viva la Bojorquez! Viva la Bojorquez!
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Pkrjones
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The Rams are DEFINITELY all-in for 2021! This trade makes sense as it costs the Rams almost nothing, monetarily, but completely guts their '22 draft, as they now sit with only (2) 5th rounders & (2) 7th rounders. With Goff they wouldn't be in the top 4 and in serious-playoff talk. The week 12 game Rams vs. Packers may very well be the top 2 teams in the NFL facing each other.
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Rams already have a lead in sacks and now with von Miller! I'm hating our coming match with them!
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