7 and 0 fact

[longtimefan]

With out davante..MLF is a hell of a coach

 

[Schultz]

Should they trade Adams now while they could get something for him. Obviously based on that stat they will then win out. Are any of those 7 wins in the playoffs?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

First, MLF IS a heck of a coach. Second, the 7-0 stat shows just how much more valuable a great QB is to winning games than a great WR. Again though, MLF is a GREAT COACH.

 

[tynimiller]

It is true this hurdle being accomplished has a ton of reasons from excellent playcalling by MLF, our QB being excellent in those games, our run game being big and the diverse WR group answering their bells when rang.

No way to say it one piece solely but give credit to all. Impressive.

This is why I’ve said if it is one of the two (Rodgers or Adam’s) you work out to be here another year or two I truly believe Aaron is the one you do it with. I just am unsure either stays without the other…if they’re playing apart it will be elsewhere

 

[PikeBadger]

First, MLF IS a heck of a coach. Second, the 7-0 stat shows just how much more valuable a great QB is to winning games than a great WR. Again though, MLF is a GREAT COACH.

Agree, and yet countless people here insist that the Packers MUST use a high draft pick to acquire that mythical #2 WR for about the last 4 years.

 

[PackAttack12]

Matt LaFleur was a homerun hire. His ability to scheme based on the personnel that he has available to him is truly a testament to how good of a coach he really is. He's a great communicator, he's a players coach, but he's also a no nonsense kind of guy as well. He has no issue commanding the room. When he talks, guys listen. He's authentic, and players will run through a brick wall for a guy like that.

But last night also showed that we are absolutely a better team with 17 on the field.

 

[PackAttack12]

Agree, and yet countless people here insist that the Packers MUST use a high draft pick to acquire that mythical #2 WR for about the last 4 years.

Don't have to use draft capital. Just utilize a legitimate resource.

Going out and getting Cobb was great. Drafting Amari in round 3 was great. Subtle moves like that have been lacking in the Gutekunst era. It was nice having him on the field last night.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Agree, and yet countless people here insist that the Packers MUST use a high draft pick to acquire that mythical #2 WR for about the last 4 years.

Drafting a high-upside WR would be a massive improvement for this offense compared to drafting a backup RB or QB. Just look at what the Bucs offense looks like with two great receivers and think about what kind of improvement the Packers' offense might see if Reagor, Justin Jefferson, Pittman Jr., or Aiyuk was playing alongside Adams. Gute has been very good but the WR room is pretty sparse going forward and, if Rodgers leaves, Love is not going to have much help in the passing game.

 

[easyk83]

Agree, and yet countless people here insist that the Packers MUST use a high draft pick to acquire that mythical #2 WR for about the last 4 years.

This is true but Id like to see the occasional second rounder spent at that position. Ted Thompson used second round draft picks in 06, 08, 11, and 14 on wide receivers and picked up guys like Greg Jennings Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and Davante Adams. Since drafting Adams our highest investments in draft capital at the position have been Montgomery and Rodgers in the third.

 

[tynimiller]

This is true but Id like to see the occasional second rounder spent at that position. Ted Thompson used second round draft picks in 06, 08, 11, and 14 on wide receivers and picked up guys like Greg Jennings Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and Davante Adams. Since drafting Adams our highest investments in draft capital at the position have been Montgomery and Rodgers in the third.

And we have had some of the most efficient offenses in Aaron’s career.

I like the idea of drafting a top flight guy, but results have not been bad at all.

 

[easyk83]

Of the

Drafting a high-upside WR would be a massive improvement for this offense compared to drafting a backup RB or QB. Just look at what the Bucs offense looks like with two great receivers and think about what kind of improvement the Packers' offense might see if Reagor, Justin Jefferson, Pittman Jr., or Aiyuk was playing alongside Adams. Gute has been very good but the WR room is pretty sparse going forward and, if Rodgers leaves, Love is not going to have much help in the passing game.

Of the top 3 wide receivers taken after Dillon in the 2020 draft they have a combined 37 receptions and 3 touchdowns between the 3 of them. None of them look like a better selection than Dillon.

 

[easyk83]

And we have had some of the most efficient offenses in Aaron’s career.

I like the idea of drafting a top flight guy, but results have not been bad at all.

Well we've finally gotten him to develop some patience with the run game. That being said yes I could see the advantage of a second receiver in the caliber of those I listed.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Of the


Of the top 3 wide receivers taken after Dillon in the 2020 draft they have a combined 37 receptions and 3 touchdowns between the 3 of them. None of them look like a better selection than Dillon.

Uhm, there were a bunch of really good receivers in the first round and top of the second round. Why are you focusing on guys taken after Dillon? Look, the pick has been made. I still don't understand any argument that backups help a team more than guys that could be playing full-time but at least this way the Packers can re-sign Dillon to a relatively expensive contract when they decide to cut Jones.

 

[BrokenArrow]

... think about what kind of improvement the Packers' offense might see if Reagor, Justin Jefferson, Pittman Jr., or Aiyuk was playing alongside Adams.

What makes you think Rodgers would be any more likely to throw to those guys than anyone else? He doesn't like young receivers. Young receivers always have some growing pains in the NFL. Combine that with Rodgers' trust issues and those guys aren't getting many targets. I suspect that is exactly why we don't draft WRs in the first round.

 

[BrokenArrow]

This is true but Id like to see the occasional second rounder spent at that position. Ted Thompson used second round draft picks in 06, 08, 11, and 14 on wide receivers and picked up guys like Greg Jennings Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and Davante Adams. Since drafting Adams our highest investments in draft capital at the position have been Montgomery and Rodgers in the third.

Driver was a late 7th round pick.

 

[Schultz]

Now that Donald was my man.

 

[easyk83]

Driver was a late 7th round pick.

This is true, but how many 7th rounder's pan out like Driver did? Of the franchise's top ten leading receivers, 6 were take either in the second round or higher.

 

[PikeBadger]

Of the


Of the top 3 wide receivers taken after Dillon in the 2020 draft they have a combined 37 receptions and 3 touchdowns between the 3 of them. None of them look like a better selection than Dillon.

And yet, there was a huge number of people gnashing their teeth loudly when Dillon was chosen in round 2.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

And yet, there was a huge number of people gnashing their teeth loudly when Dillon was chosen in round 2.

Because good running backs are far easier to find late in drafts than good receivers, linemen, corners, safeties, etc. Dillon is a Packer so I hope he becomes an All-Pro but as of now it doesn't seem like he'll get that chance until his second contract.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

What makes you think Rodgers would be any more likely to throw to those guys than anyone else? He doesn't like young receivers. Young receivers always have some growing pains in the NFL. Combine that with Rodgers' trust issues and those guys aren't getting many targets. I suspect that is exactly why we don't draft WRs in the first round.

Because they're good receivers? You say he doesn't like throwing to young receivers; I say he doesn't like throwing to raw, undeveloped receivers who take a couple seasons to become decent NFL receivers.

 

[Dantés]

Uhm, there were a bunch of really good receivers in the first round and top of the second round. Why are you focusing on guys taken after Dillon? Look, the pick has been made. I still don't understand any argument that backups help a team more than guys that could be playing full-time but at least this way the Packers can re-sign Dillon to a relatively expensive contract when they decide to cut Jones.

You obviously focus on guys taken after Dillon because they would have been actual alternative choices. What’s the point in saying “it would have been better if they had taken this player that went way before their pick”?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

You obviously focus on guys taken after Dillon because they would have been actual alternative choices. What’s the point in saying “it would have been better if they had taken this player that went way before their pick”?

Because GMs can move in the draft. Just pretending they can't is kind of a skewed analysis.

 

[Dantés]

Because GMs can move in the draft. Just pretending they can't is kind of a skewed analysis.

Talking about who they actually could have taken at the pick they had is far less skewed than inventing some trade up scenario with zero idea whether it would have been possible. Shoot, Gutekunst literally said they tried to move up in round 2 and couldn’t get a deal done.

This is obvious, but I doubt any of it matters. You’re not looking for analysis, you’re looking for an excuse to complain and confirm your priors.

 

[OldSchool101]

Drafting a high-upside WR would be a massive improvement for this offense compared to drafting a backup RB or QB. Just look at what the Bucs offense looks like with two great receivers and think about what kind of improvement the Packers' offense might see if Reagor, Justin Jefferson, Pittman Jr., or Aiyuk was playing alongside Adams. Gute has been very good but the WR room is pretty sparse going forward and, if Rodgers leaves, Love is not going to have much help in the passing game.

I agree. While I’d be fine with a comparable replacement at TE or WR.
The larger pool at the WR position could offer a better solution.
I like James Washington and I think he would be exponentially better with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him. I also think we could afford him and I’d add he's a sure handed, big play component we are lacking. He asked to be traded recently and the Steelers are 1 more loss from rethinking their long term strategy.

If the Steelers lose this Sunday, they are
3-4 and looking outside-inward.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Because they're good receivers? You say he doesn't like throwing to young receivers; I say he doesn't like throwing to raw, undeveloped receivers who take a couple seasons to become decent NFL receivers.

And how good would they be with a QB who has a well-established propensity to throw at one guy whenever he possibly can? They have the luxury of QBs who actually spread the ball around.

And what makes you think Aiyuk is so great? He hasn't done squat this year. Cobb and Lazard both have more catches than him and if you extrapolate MVS's numbers beyond the 3 games he has played he most likely would have more catches too. The guy has 9 catches AS A STARTER.