53 man roster?

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

I'm not convinced Hundley would make it to the PS, meaning he has to get a roster spot. Bummer considering all the talent they have in camp. TT didn't move up to get Hundley to expose him on waivers. Let's face it, if Rodgers goes down so does the season.

And Hundley looks good. Probably not good enough to pass Tolzien, at least not this year.

And Blanchard? Odd man out I'm afraid.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Agree with all. I haven't seen anything from Abbrederis. Ripkowski on PS makes sense for this year, Kuhn's last. Will Ripkowski clear waivers? Probably. FB is becoming a dinosaur, just short of extinction. But without a good blocking TE, and we have none, a FB is a necessity. And Kuhn is a good player and deserves a farewell season, not that this should factor in. Just sayin.....

I seen Quarless in there at FB for a few plays at least... Might be a sign of whats to come? I believe with the WRs we have, we could go into the season like last, depending on Rodgers and Quarless to stay healthy and play well. one goes down, we have another, but if two go down, we will need to play 4 Wrs much more often IMO. Which is fine... But if the 2nd tier TEs play well, we might be looking at letting Ripkowski test practice squad, and playing TEs at FB?

Im all for guys playing more than one position to save roster spots... I wonder yearly why we havnt taught a back up O-lineman to long snap, and use Goode's roster spot for guys like gunter and pennell. or that dude last year with a cool name. secondary. anyways. TEs and FBs are different. I know. Especially in todays passing game, thick brutes like Rodgers arent the norm. And lead blocking is an art form... But if only Rodgers could magically block like big will henderson. He's be da man.

 

[TJV]

Yeah, I wonder where the "bad camp" stuff is coming from? How is he run blocking? I'm going to assume a guess that the bad camp stuff maybe coming from him not being great at special teams...at least so far. However, last night he looked above average overall on special teams. He made a couple of good plays.

This is Robert Zizzo's from Packers News take about a week ago:

If sixth-round draft pick Aaron Ripkowski is going to make the 53-man roster, it’s because he will have demonstrated that he can be a high-level blocker, especially in short-yardage situations. During Saturday’s practice, the 6-foot-1, 246-pound fullback took a step backward. Backward as in being pushed back into the quarterback by linebacker Joe Thomas while pass blocking. Backward as in getting stuffed by linebacker Julius Peppers 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage on a run play. He also found nobody to block as the lead blocker on two other unsuccessful running plays.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sp.../08/insider-thumbs-crosby-ripkowski/31364107/

Beyond that I don't remember reading anything positive about him in camp. But I too thought he did well on STs and as long as he continues to improve he certainly has a shot to make the 53. Even if he doesn't, a FB is probably more likely to make it through waivers to the PS than any other position.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

This is Robert Zizzo's from Packers News take about a week ago:
http://www.packersnews.com/story/sp.../08/insider-thumbs-crosby-ripkowski/31364107/

Beyond that I don't remember reading anything positive about him in camp. But I too thought he did well on STs and as long as he continues to improve he certainly has a shot to make the 53. Even if he doesn't, a FB is probably more likely to make it through waivers to the PS than any other position.

I remember when GB had 5 TEs one year... and 3 FBs another year around the same time too i believe. So we have 2 TEs and a FB guaranteed spots. anythings possible IMO. Just depends on what the brain trust thinks.

 

[adambr2]

Yeah, I just don't see the need for Ripkowski on the roster assuming we're keeping Kuhn. He seems like a pretty easy/likely stash on the PS. Not many teams are looking for late round rookie fullbacks on the waiver wire after they finalize their own 53s.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I haven't seen anything from Abbrederis.

Abbrederis has to get back on the field. If he isn't capable of doing that pretty fast there's no way he makes the team.

I wonder yearly why we havnt taught a back up O-lineman to long snap.

Every single team in the NFL has a specialist long snapper. There's too much risk involved in letting some else take care of it.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

I seen Quarless in there at FB for a few plays at least... Might be a sign of whats to come? I believe with the WRs we have, we could go into the season like last, depending on Rodgers and Quarless to stay healthy and play well. one goes down, we have another, but if two go down, we will need to play 4 Wrs much more often IMO. Which is fine... But if the 2nd tier TEs play well, we might be looking at letting Ripkowski test practice squad, and playing TEs at FB?

Im all for guys playing more than one position to save roster spots... I wonder yearly why we havnt taught a back up O-lineman to long snap, and use Goode's roster spot for guys like gunter and pennell. or that dude last year with a cool name. secondary. anyways. TEs and FBs are different. I know. Especially in todays passing game, thick brutes like Rodgers arent the norm. And lead blocking is an art form... But if only Rodgers could magically block like big will henderson. He's be da man.

William Henderson. There was a stud. Yknow I hadn't thought about it but why can't a player who plays be a long snapper? Is it really that hard? Or at least that hard to teach? We do it with the placeholder which strikes me as a much tougher job.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

Abbrederis has to get back on the field. If he isn't capable of doing that pretty fast there's no way he makes the team.



Every single team in the NFL has a specialist long snapper. There's too much risk involved in letting some else take care of it.

Wow I was gonna ask that question. What did Goode do before he was a long snapper? Seems like a teachable skill but their must be something to it if each team has one.

Spot on re: Abbrederis. Talk about injury prone. How did he make it through college ball?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

We do it with the placeholder which strikes me as a much tougher job.

Masthay is holding for Crosby on field goals, so the Packers use another specialist doing it.

What did Goode do before he was a long snapper?

Goode was a long snapper in college as well and played some special teams. Offensive and defensive players don't have the time necessary to perfect the execution on the play.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

Masthay is holding for Crosby on field goals, so the Packers use another specialist doing it.



Goode was a long snapper in college as well and played some special teams. Offensive and defensive players don't have the time necessary to perfect the execution on the play.

That's true about Mathstay already being a specialist. And as for the long snapper, well I guess the proof of the unique nature of the job is that all 32 teams have one. Interesting. Thanks.

 

[Poppa San]

IIRC, the long snapper before Goode came out of college as a TE.

 

[adambr2]

Gunter has to be considered on the good side of the fence right now, for sure. It looks very possibly like a 3 QB roster this year? I don't think Hundley clears waivers.

I'm sticking with my 6 WR prediction, but not the same 6 -- White replaces Abbrederis. Sorry Abby, I really wanted to see you here, but you just can't get healthy.

Elliot probably makes it again, but I'm less excited about it than last year after his minimal contributions in the regular season. Frankly, we've kept a lot of UDFA LB's over the years, but most of them have just turned out to be bodies (Zombo, Moses, So'Oto, etc.)

 

[Deleted member 6794]

IIRC, the long snapper before Goode came out of college as a TE.

Rob Davis, the Packers´ long snapper from 1997-2007, started at defensive tackle for Shippensburg University. He played in 167 straight games for the Packers which is the third-longest streak in team history. Aside with John Kuhn he´s only one of five Shippensburg alumni to have ever played in the NFL. As of right now he´s the Packers director of player engagement.

Gunter has to be considered on the good side of the fence right now, for sure. It looks very possibly like a 3 QB roster this year? I don't think Hundley clears waivers.

I'm sticking with my 6 WR prediction, but not the same 6 -- White replaces Abbrederis. Sorry Abby, I really wanted to see you here, but you just can't get healthy.

Elliot probably makes it again, but I'm less excited about it than last year after his minimal contributions in the regular season. Frankly, we've kept a lot of UDFA LB's over the years, but most of them have just turned out to be bodies (Zombo, Moses, So'Oto, etc.)

I´m convinced the Packers will keep Hundley on the 53 as he most likely wouldn´t make it to the practice squad. White has been impressive in camp so far but he doesn´t translate that success to game days. It seems Larry Pinkard has been the best out of the undrafted group, maybe he could challenge for a roster spot. The outside linebackers mostly stayed healthy for all of last season so it was no surprise that Elliot didn´t get a ton of playing time.

 

[Luca]

My new prediction:
(Lock, Good Bet, On the fence) (asterisk: will be cut when suspended players return)

QB: Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
HB: Lacy, Starks, R.Neal
FB: Kuhn, Ripkowksi
TE: Rodgers, Perillo, Backman* (probably suspended: Quarless)
WR: Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis
OL: Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Tretter, Barclay, Walker, L. Taylor*

DL: Daniels, Raji, Pennel, Boyd, Gaston, Thornton* (suspended D.Jones & Guion)
ILB: Barrington, Ryan, Palmer
OLB: Matthews, Peppers, Neal, Perry, Elliot, Mulumba
CB: Shields, Hayward, Rollins, Randall, Gunter
S: Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson, Banjo

Specialists: Crosby, Masthay, Goode

On the outside looking in: A. Harris, White, Bradford, Vaughters, Goodson, Fanor

 

[Uncle Rico]

Not sure if the right thread or not, but how worried are we about Bahktiari's knee? Anybody see a report that gave some grade of severity to the injury? I saw Barclay we be starting at LT at least for the Steelers game.

 

[PackFan2]

Verison 1.0

OFFENSE(24)​

QB: Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley

RB: Lacy, Starks, R. Neal

FB: Kuhn, Ripkowski

TE: Rodgers, Quarless, Backman

WR: Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis

T: Bakhtiari, Bulaga

C: Linsley

G: Sitton, Lang

Rotational OL: Tretter, Walker, Barclay

Offense Summary: Theres no way Hundley loses third string. Neal beats out the other rbs because of his experience. Kuhn is kept for one more year. Ripkowski will be a utilized in special teams and as a blocking TE. Myles White has been great in camp.. but Janis has more ceiling. Walker, who was on the practice squad last season (last 13 games) has taken the leap this season. Walker can line up at G or T. Tretter and Barclay can line up at T, G, C. Barclay is a little rusty but will get back in form.

Defense(26)
​

DL: Daniels, Raji, Pennel, Gaston, Ringo *Suspended Jones and Guion*

ILB: Matthews *OLB*, Barrington, Ryan, Palmer

OLB: Peppers, Neal, Perry, Elliot, Mulumba

CB: Shields, Hayward, Gunter, Rollins, Randall

DB: Hyde

S: Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo

Defense Summary: Thornton doesnt make that second year jump and gets beat by Gaston. Bradford, who I was cheering for this season looks confused half the time and is waived. Gunter proves that he has what it takes to be a physical man-man cover and secures a spot.

Special Teams(3)​

K: Crosby

P: Masthay

LS: Goode

ST Summary: Masthay needs to have a good season or else hes gone next season. Goode has been solid as the LS.

Overall Thoughts and Practice Squad​

Its a no brainer. Packers are in the run for the Super Bowl. We have a young unproven defense that might emerge early-mid season and our offense is unstoppable (just have to find that athletic TE who can stretch the field and big redzone target goddamitt! lol). I'm expecting a few Packers who gets waived/cut to be put on the Practice Squad. Injuries always occur during the season and I'm expecting players from the Practice Squad to rise up.

Practice Squad Candidates List (10): Goodson (CB), Hooks (DL), Rotheram (OL), Dantzler(LB), Vaughters(LB), Harris (RB), Ebbele (OL), Kowalski (OL), Mitchell (TE), Hunt (WR)

I'm expecting Packers to sign a Punter, TE and DL into the practice squad.


I'll do an update soon.

 

[PackFan2]

Verison 2.0 Before tomorrows cuts.


OFFENSE(24)
QB: Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley

RB: Lacy, Starks, R. Neal

FB: Kuhn, Ripkowski

TE: Rodgers, Quarless, Backman

WR: Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis, White

T: Bakhtiari, Bulaga

C: Linsley

G: Sitton, Lang

Rotational OL: Tretter, Walker, Barclay

Offense Summary: Theres no way Hundley loses third string. Neal beats out the other rbs because of his experience. Kuhn is kept for one more year. Ripkowski will be a utilized in special teams and as a blocking TE. Myles White has been great in camp.. but Janis has more ceiling. Walker, who was on the practice squad last season (last 13 games) has taken the leap this season. Walker can line up at G or T. Tretter and Barclay can line up at T, G, C. Barclay is a little rusty but will get back in form.


Defense(26)
DL: Daniels, Raji, Pennel, Gaston, Ringo *Suspended Jones and Guion*

ILB: Matthews *OLB*, Barrington, Ryan, Bradford

OLB: Peppers, Neal, Perry, Elliot, Mulumba

CB: Shields, Hayward, Gunter, Rollins, Randall

DB: Hyde

S: Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo

Defense Summary: Thornton doesnt make that second year jump and gets beat by Gaston. I had cut Bradford in the version 1.0 but but now I think he has made a case for staying on the team. I think the starting ILB will be Bradford and Ryan. Palmer doesn't make the cut. Gunter proves that he has what it takes to be a physical man2man cover and secures a spot.
Special Teams(3)
K: Crosby

P: Masthay

LS: Goode

ST Summary: Masthay needs to have a good season or else hes gone next season. Goode has been solid as the LS.



Overall Thoughts and Practice Squad
Its a no brainer. Packers are in the run for the Super Bowl. We have a young unproven defense that might emerge early-mid season and our offense is unstoppable (just have to find that athletic TE who can stretch the field and big redzone target goddamitt! lol). I'm expecting a few Packers who gets waived/cut to be put on the Practice Squad. Injuries always occur during the season and I'm expecting players from the Practice Squad to rise up.

Practice Squad Candidates List (10): Goodson (CB), Hooks (DL), Rotheram (OL), Pinkard (WR), Vaughters(LB), Harris (RB), Ebbele (OL), Kowalski (OL), Mitchell (TE), Hunt (WR)

I'm expecting Packers to sign a Punter, TE, LB and DL into the practice squad.

 

[adambr2]

I don't think that either Gaston or Ringo has shown enough to beat out Boyd for a spot.

 

[PackFan2]

I don't think that either Gaston or Ringo has shown enough to beat out Boyd for a spot.

Soo.. what has Boyd done to prove that he's worthy of a spot..? Nothing fancy coming from Boyd but eh? we will see if my roster is spot on or not tomorrow

 

[adambr2]

Soo.. what has Boyd done to prove that he's worthy of a spot..?

This training camp, not much. However, he's in his 3rd year and has proven to be a serviceable backup DE who is versatile enough to fill in as an emergency NT in a pinch. If Gaston or Ringo had had a monster pre-season, serviceable might not be enough for Boyd to stick, but in the absence of something proven to be better, Boyd likely stays.

Plus, Boyd isn't eligible for the practice squad, whereas one or both of Gaston and Ringo can probably be stashed.

 

[PackFan2]

This training camp, not much. However, he's in his 3rd year and has proven to be a serviceable backup DE who is versatile enough to fill in as an emergency NT in a pinch. If Gaston or Ringo had had a monster pre-season, serviceable might not be enough for Boyd to stick, but in the absence of something proven to be better, Boyd likely stays.

Plus, Boyd isn't eligible for the practice squad, whereas one or both of Gaston and Ringo can probably be stashed.

I agree that this would be a decision based on Practice Squad. I would put Ringo on PS and Boyd would fill in just because he has the years in the system. On that term.. "Serviceable" is an overstatement for Boyd lol IMO lol. Cant wait to see who gets cut tomorrow. I wanna see who the packers pick up on practice squad from other teams.

 

[Mondio]

I was definitely hoping to see more from Boyd this year than he's shown

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Here´s my final roster before the cuts will be made today:

Offense:

QB: Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
RB: Lacy, Starks, Neal
FB: Kuhn, Ripkowski
TE: Rodgers, Quarless, Backman
WR: Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis, White, Abbrederis
OL: Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Barclay, Walker, Tretter

Defense:

DL: Daniels, Raji, Boyd, Pennel, Gaston
LB: Matthews, Peppers, Neal, Perry, Barrington, Ryan, Elliott, Mulumba, Palmer, Vaughters
DB: Shields, Hayward, Randall, Rollins, Gunter, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson, Goodson

Specialists:

K: Crosby
P: Masthay
LS: Goode

Jones and Guion won´t count against the 53 while they´re suspended.

 

[Luca]

My prediction for today:
(Lock, Good Bet, On the fence) (asterisk: will be cut when suspended players return)

QB: Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
HB: Lacy, Starks, R.Neal
FB: Kuhn, Ripkowksi
TE: Rodgers, Quarless, Backman
WR: Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis, White
OL: Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Tretter, Barclay, Walker, L. Taylor*

DL: Daniels, Raji, Pennel, Boyd, Gaston
ILB: Barrington, Ryan, Palmer, Vaughters*
OLB: Matthews, Peppers, Neal, Perry, Elliot, Mulumba
CB: Shields, Hayward, Randall, Rollins, Gunter
S: Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson, Banjo

Specialists: Crosby, Masthay, Goode

On the outside looking in: A. Harris/Crockett, Pinkard, Perillo/Henry, Ringo, Goodson

 

[Mondio]

Here´s my final roster before the cuts will be made today:

Offense:

QB: Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
RB: Lacy, Starks, Neal
FB: Kuhn, Ripkowski
TE: Rodgers, Quarless, Backman
WR: Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis, White, Abbrederis
OL: Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Barclay, Walker, Tretter

Defense:

DL: Daniels, Raji, Boyd, Pennel, Gaston
LB: Matthews, Peppers, Neal, Perry, Barrington, Ryan, Elliott, Mulumba, Palmer, Vaughters
DB: Shields, Hayward, Randall, Rollins, Gunter, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson, Goodson

Specialists:

K: Crosby
P: Masthay
LS: Goode

Jones and Guion won´t count against the 53 while they´re suspended.

That's pretty much my list, but I'd swap Vaughters for Thomas