2025 Roster - Semi Live Thread

[tynimiller]

Gute confirms that Jenkins will be moved to Center.

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I got some people to text that gave me all kinds of **** for declaring this the moment Banks was signed.... LOL

ALSO...I'd still not remove center from draft watchlist...I could see us sneaking a Jake Majors or something Day3 with the potential cap savings of Jenkins and us parting ways after this season...his hit just keeps going up...2026 is $24.8M...NOW of course if we think he is going to be our starting center and shows he can do it for a couple more seasons you could easily do an extension to lesson that down too.

 

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ALSO...I'd still not remove center from draft watchlist...I could see us sneaking a Jake Majors or something Day3 with the potential cap savings of Jenkins and us parting ways after this season...

Are you becoming less optimistic about Monk, or just thinking about adding depth to the position?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I got some people to text that gave me all kinds of **** for declaring this the moment Banks was signed.... LOL

ALSO...I'd still not remove center from draft watchlist...I could see us sneaking a Jake Majors or something Day3 with the potential cap savings of Jenkins and us parting ways after this season...his hit just keeps going up...2026 is $24.8M...NOW of course if we think he is going to be our starting center and shows he can do it for a couple more seasons you could easily do an extension to lesson that down too.

Jenkins has a lot of value for the Packers. As with most of their OL players, he can play a number of positions across the OL. I think when the season starts, you want at least 7 quality OL players, all who can start and some being able to play multiple positions. Injuries happen and the OL seems to always have its fair share.

Jenkins salary may seem high for a center, but I think his injury history/ability to stay on the field, his flexibility of positions and of course his talent, makes that salary palatable.

 

[tynimiller]

Jenkins has a lot of value for the Packers. As with most of their OL players, he can play a number of positions across the OL. I think when the season starts, you want at least 7 quality OL players, all who can start and some being able to play multiple positions. Injuries happen and the OL seems to always have its fair share.

Jenkins salary may seem high for a center, but I think his injury history/ability to stay on the field, his flexibility of positions and of course his talent, makes that salary palatable.

There isn't a world that exists I let his 2026 hit happen as constructed - not one. I love the guy, immense value (albeit diminishing) but you don't let that number hit unless you're trying to fiscally be irresponsible.

 

[tynimiller]

Are you becoming less optimistic about Monk, or just thinking about adding depth to the position?

I like Monk and that coin flip could still pan out - but a move like that would allow him to focus on guard OR more likely you let in 2026 Monk and Majors fight it out after letting Jenkins walk (IF WE DID THAT). Majors is a better rookie prospect at center as example than I personally held Monk too...now is Monk a better 2025 NFL lineman than Majors given his year...possible.

 

[tynimiller]

Jenkins has a lot of value for the Packers. As with most of their OL players, he can play a number of positions across the OL. I think when the season starts, you want at least 7 quality OL players, all who can start and some being able to play multiple positions. Injuries happen and the OL seems to always have its fair share.

Jenkins salary may seem high for a center, but I think his injury history/ability to stay on the field, his flexibility of positions and of course his talent, makes that salary palatable.

To put what that salary would have him at amongst centers - that's 33% higher per year than ANY center under contract currently. Dallman the newest high profile didn't even touch $17M a year.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

To put what that salary would have him at amongst centers - that's 33% higher per year than ANY center under contract currently. Dallman the newest high profile didn't even touch $17M a year.

But THAT isn't his salary. Jenkins average salary is $17M/year. Creed Humphrey is being paid $18M/year, a deal he made last year.

Now if you want to talk about cap hits, dead cap hits, etc., that is more of a cap accounting conversation than it is a salary conversation.

Dallman's average salary is $14M.

 

[tynimiller]

But THAT isn't his salary. Jenkins average salary is $17M/year. Creed Humphrey is being paid $18M/year, a deal he made last year.

Now if you want to talk about cap hits, dead cap hits, etc., that is more of a cap accounting conversation than it is a salary conversation.

Dallman's average salary is $14M.

LOL You know precisely what I'm talking though, you don't let Jenkins 2026 actually hit the books - it'd be asinine.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

LOL You know precisely what I'm talking though, you don't let Jenkins 2026 actually hit the books - it'd be asinine.

Yes and No.

It is important for the average fan to know that Jenkins isn't going to be paid $24,800,000 in 2026. As his contract stands right now, that $24.8M would be the cap hit that the Packers would have to report in 2026, if Jenkins is on the team. Why so much? Because like most contracts, they pushed a lot of his cap hit out in the early years of his deal.

Whether the Packers will keep that number on the books, depends a lot on the kind of year the Jenkins has in 2025. It also will depend on how the books look and if they need to "clear" cap space for other moves.

I think if Jenkins has a healthy, Pro Bowl type of year at Center, the Packers try to redo his current deal. He probably will even be give a pay raise, but yes, in that situation, his 2026 cap hit won't be anywhere near the $24.8M.....but it will be in 2029

I prefer talking about what players are being paid. It's clean and simple. Looking only at cap hits, yearly or dead, is conversation for why a player is cut/traded, kept or extended.

Jenkins is being paid $12.8M this season, next season he is scheduled to be paid $20M.....those are the numbers that probably drive Gute's decisions more than the numbers that he, Ball and others have to juggle on the books.
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[tynimiller]

Yes and No.

It is important for the average fan to know that Jenkins isn't going to be paid $24,800,000 in 2026. As his contract stands right now, that $24.8M would be the cap hit that the Packers would have to report in 2026, if Jenkins is on the team. Why so much? Because like most contracts, they pushed a lot of his cap hit out in the early years of his deal.

Whether the Packers will keep that number on the books, depends a lot on the kind of year the Jenkins has in 2025. It also will depend on how the books look and if they need to "clear" cap space for other moves.

I think if Jenkins has a healthy, Pro Bowl type of year at Center, the Packers try to redo his current deal. He probably will even be give a pay raise, but yes, in that situation, his 2026 cap hit won't be anywhere near the $24.8M.....but it will be in 2029

I prefer talking about what players are being paid. It's clean and simple. Looking only at cap hits, yearly or dead, is conversation for why a player is cut/traded, kept or extended.

Jenkins is being paid $12.8M this season, next season he is scheduled to be paid $20M.....those are the numbers that probably drive Gute's decisions more than the numbers that he, Ball and others have to juggle on the books.
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When I speak in terms of fiscal decisions of a team in a given year I'm 100% only caring about what he does to the books (hit).

Jenkins costs the Packers in 2026 if no action is taken $24M - this cannot and should not happen. Extension or cut (saves $20M).

 

[gopkrs]

Yes and No.

It is important for the average fan to know that Jenkins isn't going to be paid $24,800,000 in 2026. As his contract stands right now, that $24.8M would be the cap hit that the Packers would have to report in 2026, if Jenkins is on the team. Why so much? Because like most contracts, they pushed a lot of his cap hit out in the early years of his deal.

Whether the Packers will keep that number on the books, depends a lot on the kind of year the Jenkins has in 2025. It also will depend on how the books look and if they need to "clear" cap space for other moves.

I think if Jenkins has a healthy, Pro Bowl type of year at Center, the Packers try to redo his current deal. He probably will even be give a pay raise, but yes, in that situation, his 2026 cap hit won't be anywhere near the $24.8M.....but it will be in 2029

I prefer talking about what players are being paid. It's clean and simple. Looking only at cap hits, yearly or dead, is conversation for why a player is cut/traded, kept or extended.

Jenkins is being paid $12.8M this season, next season he is scheduled to be paid $20M.....those are the numbers that probably drive Gute's decisions more than the numbers that he, Ball and others have to juggle on the books.
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I like trying to keep it simple. But isn't the bonus money part of what he is making? Or are we just looking at yearly salary w/o considering maybe big differences in bonus money?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I like trying to keep it simple. But isn't the bonus money part of what he is making? Or are we just looking at yearly salary w/o considering maybe big differences in bonus money?

Are you talking about roster, signing, workout or other earned bonuses? It it's a signing bonus, that's money already spent (given to player), but may not be fully accounted for on the cap in the year that it is paid out. As far as the other bonuses, that are more specific to each given year of the contract, I look at them in the year that they are paid out and accounted for against the cap.

 

[gopkrs]

I'm only saying that signing bonuses can differ a lot. And how much a player earns per year should take into consideration also the amount of the signing bonus. By dividing bonus by the years of the contract. Yes, it's in the past but for figuring out how much one person is making compared to another.

 

[Schultz]

I agree they need 7 quality OL. Hopefully they get the 7th one in the draft. Personally, I would like to see 5 of the 7 back in 2026 with Rhyan and Jenkins not retained. I am most likely in the minority.

 

[gopkrs]

I agree they need 7 quality OL. Hopefully they get the 7th one in the draft. Personally, I would like to see 5 of the 7 back in 2026 with Rhyan and Jenkins not retained. I am most likely in the minority.

I just don't think we have seen enough of either just yet. This year will tell the tale imho. But I have seen enough of Jenkins at tackle to be of the opinion that he should not play there. It does show the need to draft another good one. Too many places where we need to get better.