2025 Draft Prospects for Packers

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'd prefer not to trade starters away, until after the Free Agency period and the draft. That way you know your needs.

There are situations that change that.

- Big roster bonus due before Free agency.
- You have someone on your roster that can effectively take their place.
- Player insists on trade.
- Other factors that create a "no future" for your team with that player.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

But it isn’t the same cost if he stays. We are paying this year in this cap X amount if he leaves, if he stays it is that like $18M PLUS that X amount.

I think the Jaire boat sails based more on relationship at this point well before what the team thinks he is player wise

That isn't true. Without restructuring his current contract, the Packers or another team, would have to pay JA a base salary of $16.15M in 2025 and $18.15M in 2026. He would also be entitled to a $700K workout bonus/year with either team, as well as a roster bonus $267K (figured per game he is active). His roster bonus jumps to $650K in 2026.

So just for ease, round all that to $17M of new money that JA gets from whomever he plays for in 2025 and $19+M in 2026.

Now the Packers, no matter what they do with him, also have to account for his signing bonus portion ($6M in 2025), as well as his restructured deal portion of $2.634M. That $8.634M can't be erased from the books, nor can the same amount be erased from the books in 2026.

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[tynimiller]

That isn't true. Without restructuring his current contract, the Packers or another team, would have to pay JA a base salary of $16.15M in 2025 and $18.15M in 2026. He would also be entitled to a $700K workout bonus/year with either team, as well as a roster bonus $267K (figured per game he is active). His roster bonus jumps to $650K in 2026.

So just for ease, round all that to $17M of new money that JA gets from whomever he plays for in 2025 and $19+M in 2026.

Now the Packers, no matter what they do with him, also have to account for his signing bonus portion ($6M in 2025), as well as his restructured deal portion of $2.634M. That $8.634M can't be erased from the books, nor can the same amount be erased from the books in 2026.

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Is the probation I’m speaking to. If we were like ANY team his cap hit would be higher than we’ve been discussing. We are not like ANY team acquiring him.

 

[Heyjoe4]

But it isn’t the same cost if he stays. We are paying this year in this cap X amount if he leaves, if he stays it is that like $18M PLUS that X amount.

I think the Jaire boat sails based more on relationship at this point well before what the team thinks he is player wise

I think a defensive line with strong DTs, DEs (edge guys), guys who can consistently get to the QB via pressures or sacks takes the heat off the secondary. It depends on who Gluten can find in FA and the draft. The lack of any pressure was very apparent this year.

As for JA..... I'm conflicted. If he can play as well as he's capable, and stay healthy, then it's probably better to keep him. I don't know what his trade value is. Other teams will see what we've seen, a guy with an injury and attitude history. His attitude isn't all that bad - I don't think he disrupts the team. He's just a talker who doesn't always think first. I just don't see him fetching more than a 3rd rounder, more likely a 4th or 5th. But he's pretty damn expensive for a guy who is a question mark.

As for WR, I only mentioned Higgins because he looks pretty good. But yeah, he'd cost a lot so he's probably not worth it. But find someone who can be consistent and move the chains. I don't know FA well enough to know if a guy like that will be available. Otherwise, hope Love gets and stays healthy and also shows some confidence. The WR group wasn't so much held back by a lack of talent but by a QB who just couldn't seem to find his mojo.

 

[milani]

Hafley played a lot more zone than I expected. But considering the CB talent, and with JA out, he really couldn't play man. So yeah, a lot of passes in the flat/underneath that go for 5 to 15 yards. Death by a thousand cuts describes it all right.

That can be avoided with better CBs, and a better pass rush. I think he has to go after a WR in FA, kinda limited to Tee Higgins.

That's a long list of needs. Will he try and trade for Max Crosby? That's risky and costly, but Gluten has to do something.

The Rams played a lot of man against the Vikings. Against Philly even with the weather they had a ton of sacks. If they had been able to slow the running game and not turn the ball over they win that game. But against teams like the Vikings we get called in man unless they are playing a backup QB.

 

[Heyjoe4]

The Rams played a lot of man against the Vikings. Against Philly even with the weather they had a ton of sacks. If they had been able to slow the running game and not turn the ball over they win that game. But against teams like the Vikings we get called in man unless they are playing a backup QB.

Were the Rams in man in the snow? Interesting call. I thought the Rams outplayed the Eagles, but as you note, too many mistakes, too many Barkley HRs. When the Rams got in the red zone on that last drive, they committed an offside penalty allowing the Eagles to substitute for the worn-out DL. Next play, they sack Stafford and game over.

But considering the field conditions, the number of stacks seemed very high.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Even in a world Hafley controls you likely still line up in a zone concept/coverage play call more than half the time. That said, yes man concepts were deployed less than I bet anyone wanted and Jaire being out the primary reasons.

I hope they don't even consider Tee personally. Going to cost too much and anyone that keeps ******* Watson for availability just do a google and find out how many games Watson has played in the last two seasons and how many Tee has played in the last two seasons.

I will never be a fan of paying top top dollar for a RB or a WR, I just don't think history will tell you the odds are in your favor of this working out...now Edge, CB or few other spots I understand and get it. If Gute is going to break the bank, I think it needs to be on a Maxx Crosby type acquisition...otherwise I'd love to see two or three Amos style or type acquisitions which include CB and Edge and maybe iDL.

Yeah the problem with paying too much for a RB or WR is that it's a home run or a strikeout (sorry for the mixed-sport analogy). The Packers had a lot of good reasons to believe Jacobs would be exceptional, and at $12 mil/year, certainly not overpaying. And it worked out.

And a WR FA is either a hit or miss. I won't be that disappointed if Gluten takes a pass at WR FA, but then he's gotta pull the trigger on Edge, DL, and CB. Just reading this exchange with you and Poker, I think the focus should be on re-establishing a pass rush, and then deal with CBs. The Packers weren't pressuring anyone the last month or so, and that makes the CB job so much harder.

 

[milani]

Were the Rams in man in the snow? Interesting call. I thought the Rams outplayed the Eagles, but as you note, too many mistakes, too many Barkley HRs. When the Rams got in the red zone on that last drive, they committed an offside penalty allowing the Eagles to substitute for the worn-out DL. Next play, they sack Stafford and game over.

But considering the field conditions, the number of stacks seemed very high.

Philly did not throw the ball much. And why should they. That is what makes it tough in the playoffs to win road games. The Commanders have done it so far. Look for the home field effect in KC Sunday.