2024-2025 Season Studs n Duds

[tynimiller]

I don’t know, the record is skipping on describing this team, is it Young, inexperienced, mediocre, the first reason is wearing thin, Professional is the term that describes their occupation, and if it is, then perform like the job you were brought in to do, 2nd and 3 stringers practice to, I don’t think their on the sidelines reading a book, injuries happen in every game in the NFL my hats off to any Starter who can play every game without injury, but even still talent and talent at backup depth could probably help this team, just sayin.

We’ve literally only been able to say the we are the youngest playoff worthy team twice. It isn’t some perpetual thing.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I don't see being the youngest team in the league as an excuse for shoddy play. The Packers are the youngest team in the league on purpose. That's how Gute has designed this team. If youth is an obstacle to winning, then blame Gute, he's the reason. The shoddy play may also have very little to do with with youth and more to do with a poor coaching performance.

 

[milani]

I don't see being the youngest team in the league as an excuse for shoddy play. The Packers are the youngest team in the league on purpose. That's how Gute has designed this team. If youth is an obstacle to winning, then blame Gute, he's the reason. The shoddy play may also have very little to do with with youth and more to do with a poor coaching performance.

I think the plan for youth was so the team would grow together and mature in several years at the same time. It was not that the team would have 30 primadonnas that would all explode in year 2. This was a full rebuild. In fact the plan was for even our punter and place kicker to grow with it. Unfortunately, our 2 tweener kickers failed and we had to go a little grayer.

 

[pacmaniac]

Most of the drops that were attributed to Wicks were on poorly thrown balls where he had to dive for them or was barely able to get his fingers on the ball at all. Unfortunately, the NFL doesn't consider that in their stat keeping. If the receiver is able to contact the ball at all with both hands, it gets counted as a drop.

The NFL doesn't actually keep track of drops. You won't see drops in any of the stats on the NFL website. There are some other stat keepers that keep track of drops though, and they might have different definitions of a drop. I remember one year when MVS had several drops, one of those sites said he only had 2 drops, which meant they must have considered it a drop only if it was a perfectly thrown ball.

By your definition, Aaron Rodgers' final pass of Super Bowl XLV was a drop, because the ball just grazed the fingertips of Jordy Nelson's hands, but I doubt anyone considers that to be a drop.

 

[Golfczar]

Stud: Jacobs
Dud: Love and LaFleur. Love took too many steps backward this season, bad mechanics, throws floaters into double and triple coverage, very disappointing and LeFleur never had the team ready at the opening kick, play calling was awful, team very undisciplined. 1-5 in division and a blocked FG from being 0-6.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Duds: Almost everybody with a big contract and/or drafted by the Packers in round 1.

Studs: Players with big contracts that were not drafted by the Packers.

Duds: Love and the WR group for not improving.

Studs: Hafley and the overall steps he made to improve the Defense.

Duds: MLF, needs to give up play calling. Bisaccia, needs to refocus or walk.

Dud and Stud: Gute. Knows how to trade and sign free agents but sucks drafting in round 1.

Stud: OL

Dud: DL

Stud: Emanual Wilson for proving me wrong, he is a decent #2 or #3.

Dud: Nixon for thinking he is a Stud.

BIGGEST DUDS: The 2024 Referees. Inconsistent, incorrect and outright confused.

 

[David Ciembronowicz]

I don't see being the youngest team in the league as an excuse for shoddy play. The Packers are the youngest team in the league on purpose. That's how Gute has designed this team. If youth is an obstacle to winning, then blame Gute, he's the reason. The shoddy play may also have very little to do with with youth and more to do with a poor coaching performance.

OR, mistakes in identifying football players who have talent, who excel or want to excel at their profession. Too many of these guys make way too many mistakes, makes one wonder about their initial evaluation, their and the team dedication to training and improvement (coaching up) and ability to improve daily, weekly, yearly

 

[DoURant]

Stud: Emanual Wilson for proving me wrong, he is a decent #2 or #3.

Emanuel Wilson doesn't get enough love. Added 500 yds on the ground spelling Jacobs, 4.9 yds/ att and had 5 total TD's (4 Run, 1 Pass).

 

[Schultz]

OR, mistakes in identifying football players who have talent, who excel or want to excel at their profession. Too many of these guys make way too many mistakes, makes one wonder about their initial evaluation, their and the team dedication to training and improvement (coaching up) and ability to improve daily, weekly, yearly

Wait a minute. I specifically remember our core posters commenting on how many college captains Gute selected.

 

[milani]

Duds: Almost everybody with a big contract and/or drafted by the Packers in round 1.

Studs: Players with big contracts that were not drafted by the Packers.

Duds: Love and the WR group for not improving.

Studs: Hafley and the overall steps he made to improve the Defense.

Duds: MLF, needs to give up play calling. Bisaccia, needs to refocus or walk.

Dud and Stud: Gute. Knows how to trade and sign free agents but sucks drafting in round 1.

Stud: OL

Dud: DL

Stud: Emanual Wilson for proving me wrong, he is a decent #2 or #3.

Dud: Nixon for thinking he is a Stud.

BIGGEST DUDS: The 2024 Referees. Inconsistent, incorrect and outright confused.

Wilson graded out very well this season. He got his shot with Dillon. Some critics are saying that the Packers should just let their youth mature another year. I still think they need a few more pieces added to the puzzle.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Wilson graded out very well this season. He got his shot with Dillon. Some critics are saying that the Packers should just let their youth mature another year. I still think they need a few more pieces added to the puzzle.

If you asked me before the season started, I would agree with "let the young players develop, 2025 is when our window starts to open for Super Bowls". Without a large jump by Love and all of his receivers not named Kraft, that really didn't happen. Could it in 2025? I doubt enough to make them a Super Bowl caliber Offense.

The Packers offense will only improve in 2025 if Love gets better, play calling and game management improves and 1-2 WR's play better. That might take bringing in a vet WR and MLF hiring an OC to take over offensive play calling. Maybe then MLF will be a better HC as well as be better with time management.

The defense I believe is on a good path. However, they are going to need to address CB, DL and DE for 2025 and beyond.

 

[shockerx]

Stud: Jacobs
Dud: Love and LaFleur. Love took too many steps backward this season, bad mechanics, throws floaters into double and triple coverage, very disappointing and LeFleur never had the team ready at the opening kick, play calling was awful, team very undisciplined. 1-5 in division and a blocked FG from being 0-6.

i just do not understand why we see so little play-action from ML. Is it due to Love's injury or I wonder if he just doesnt see the field that well so they dislike him turning away for fake handoff. Just seems there could be so many more optoins to the playbook if Love under center more.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Studs
Tom, Kraft, Reed, Jacobs,

I think your list is accurate but leaves out a few players on either side.
Stud
Zach Tom- He played very well nearly every week and was often their highest graded lineman.
Dud-
Love- He regressed from last season and was especially mediocre in the biggest games. Other than the Cardinal game, I didn't think he played at an elite level. Big disappointment for a 50 million dollar player. I wouldn't say he's doomed for failure but I would think Lombardi Ave is alarmed to say the least over his performance.
Gary- He plays like a decent starter but that's not what you expect from a guy making his big bucks and the 12th pick in the draft.

Sanguine until the Philly game this past weekend I would've agreed 100% on Tom, but he looked like sh** against the Eagles.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sanguine until the Philly game this past weekend I would've agreed 100% on Tom, but he looked like sh** against the Eagles.

The entire OL looked like sh** most of the game against Philly. While it didn't help that Jenkins went down, Philly just has that good of a DL. So I wouldn't use just the 1 game on Sunday to grade out the Packers OL.

 

[milani]

i just do not understand why we see so little play-action from ML. Is it due to Love's injury or I wonder if he just doesnt see the field that well so they dislike him turning away for fake handoff. Just seems there could be so many more optoins to the playbook if Love under center more.

And if you watch Stafford his dynamic is the play action coming from under center. He does it like he did in Detroit except with a better O line. Although MLF has put Love under center occasionally it is a lot less than many teams. And he did the same with Rodgers.

 

[shockerx]

And if you watch Stafford his dynamic is the play action coming from under center. He does it like he did in Detroit except with a better O line. Although MLF has put Love under center occasionally it is a lot less than many teams. And he did the same with Rodgers.

Yes Stafford looked great under center..he knew right where he was going with the ball...boy he got rid of it quick. I dont know if Love can look like that.

 

[pacmaniac]

i just do not understand why we see so little play-action from ML.

MLF was asked that question in his press conference today. He said he doesn't know where that stat comes from, because when he asked the Packers analytics department about it, they told him the Packers were ranked #3 in the league in terms of play action.

 

[milani]

Yes Stafford looked great under center..he knew right where he was going with the ball...boy he got rid of it quick. I dont know if Love can look like that.

Not yet. Stafford in 2010 or 2011 was similar to Love. Hopefully, Jordan will develop like that.