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<blockquote data-quote="ORRELSE" data-source="post: 22941" data-attributes="member: 274"><p>IBPrez, I respect pretty much all of what you say in your posts, but you are out to lunch right here.</p><p></p><p>You'd be the same guy castigating TT for passing on Rodgers had we taken Nick Collins first, which we would have done if Rodgers was not sitting there. That was a no-brainer, wasn't it? And I'll say it again, Nick Collins was the FIRST choice on the Packers board.</p><p></p><p>Comparing a clearly worse Penn State state team right now than in years past, and an underachieving Tryone Willingham Notre Dame team to Notre Dame teams of the past that Brees played against is unfair. Apples and oranges.</p><p></p><p>Further, Orton obviously doesn't have to do much to win in Chicago. If he doesn't turn the ball over and make stupid mistakes, that defense will win the games for him. Orton's stats clearly show it. 21 QBs with at least 30 attempts have better stats than Orton right now. He's thrown for 291 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT, in 2 GAMES. Hardly stellar. I'm not saying he's bad, but the reason that CHI has more wins than we do is because they have an awesome defense and doesn't rely on Orton to win games for them. As long as Orton plays steady all year the Bears will be respectable.</p><p>Again, I just think its unfair to compare Orton's result against Favre's result because different circumstances came into play in both games. Favre has to win games because we don't have the defense to do it for him.</p><p></p><p>So to answer your question, Orton and the Bears beat the Lions because they have a stellar defense and Orton did not make mistakes. </p><p></p><p>Did the Packers have either of that in the loss to DET?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ORRELSE, post: 22941, member: 274"] IBPrez, I respect pretty much all of what you say in your posts, but you are out to lunch right here. You'd be the same guy castigating TT for passing on Rodgers had we taken Nick Collins first, which we would have done if Rodgers was not sitting there. That was a no-brainer, wasn't it? And I'll say it again, Nick Collins was the FIRST choice on the Packers board. Comparing a clearly worse Penn State state team right now than in years past, and an underachieving Tryone Willingham Notre Dame team to Notre Dame teams of the past that Brees played against is unfair. Apples and oranges. Further, Orton obviously doesn't have to do much to win in Chicago. If he doesn't turn the ball over and make stupid mistakes, that defense will win the games for him. Orton's stats clearly show it. 21 QBs with at least 30 attempts have better stats than Orton right now. He's thrown for 291 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT, in 2 GAMES. Hardly stellar. I'm not saying he's bad, but the reason that CHI has more wins than we do is because they have an awesome defense and doesn't rely on Orton to win games for them. As long as Orton plays steady all year the Bears will be respectable. Again, I just think its unfair to compare Orton's result against Favre's result because different circumstances came into play in both games. Favre has to win games because we don't have the defense to do it for him. So to answer your question, Orton and the Bears beat the Lions because they have a stellar defense and Orton did not make mistakes. Did the Packers have either of that in the loss to DET? [/QUOTE]
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