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This is huge news and I have to wonder if the shake up the 2 divisions into 4?
Yeah. It's going to have to be to keep it interesting.This is huge news and I have to wonder if the shake up the 2 divisions into 4?
If they add 4 more teams, they'd probably go to two divisions. As of now, they plan on one division with 14 teams. They'll sort it out at the end when #1 & 2 duke it out for Championship the way it sounds.Yeah. It's going to have to be to keep it interesting.
And I'm on board with getting rid of the NCAA and leveling the playing field. They can make a much better product.
This is crazy! Teams on the Pacific coast playing in a Middle West Conference? So now do Penn State and Michigan joined the Pac 12? At long last have you no sense of geography, sir?This is huge news and I have to wonder if the shake up the 2 divisions into 4?
Been waiting for that intense Rutgers v UCLA conference rivalry to kick off. Dozens of fans taking the week off of school to drive to the away games.This is crazy! Teams on the Pacific coast playing in a Middle West Conference? So now do Penn State and Michigan joined the Pac 12? At long last have you no sense of geography, sir?
It isn't about the fans anymore, the fans are pretty much locked into any successful program as it is. It's all about the TV money and sponsorship contracts. Just like the NFL has become a money printing machine, College Football and Basketball has followed.Been waiting for that intense Rutgers v UCLA conference rivalry to kick off. Dozens of fans taking the week off of school to drive to the away games.
Great points. Picture a conference basketball tournament. A west coast team has to go all the way east for several days or more with practice. Nuts.It isn't about the fans anymore, the fans are pretty much locked into any successful program as it is. It's all about the TV money and sponsorship contracts. Just like the NFL has become a money printing machine, College Football and Basketball has followed.
What I am curious about are some of the sports programs that I would call "throw-ins", because they don't make the school any money. Are the UW Tennis, Soccer, Rowing, Softball, swimming, golf, etc. teams going to be traveling all the way to the west coast to compete? Their budgets are tiny and flying VS busing them, all over the country, I can't see as making their budgets any better. The UW Men's Baseball was dropped in 1991 due to budgeting, will this expansion of the Big10, to include schools from all over the US, put all these other programs in jeopardy?
They do that now for Holiday tournaments, NCAA tournament, and will often take two game swings from one coast to the other. Since all travel today is by charter jet, they don't really have too many hardships involved. With football, since it's only once a week games, they already do that, by scheduling games in far off locations. Players often go to teams that do that kind of traveling now. They want to see something, not spend their time in a bus going between Evanston, IL and Bloomington, IN. The travel is part of the fun, and part of the recruiting you can do down the road. Exposure, in a larger area, for your team. But, rest assured, they will condense the travel as much as possible.Great points. Picture a conference basketball tournament. A west coast team has to go all the way east for several days or more with practice. Nuts.
I recall it being dropped because of different numbers. Seems they needed to find a way to have near equal numbers of men and women in the athletic programs. Baseball was the odd man out.The UW Men's Baseball was dropped in 1991 due to budgeting,
Yes, for the 2 major sports, the teams fly if the game is far away. However, that isnt the case for most of the other sports programs. Again, the expansion of the Big10 to include schools in the West and the South, is all about money and power. I don't see it benefitting the programs that bring in little to no money. Not to mention the athletes competing in many of those sports do not view it as an avenue to a professional career in said Sport.They do that now for Holiday tournaments, NCAA tournament, and will often take two game swings from one coast to the other. Since all travel today is by charter jet, they don't really have too many hardships involved. With football, since it's only once a week games, they already do that, by scheduling games in far off locations. Players often go to teams that do that kind of traveling now. They want to see something, not spend their time in a bus going between Evanston, IL and Bloomington, IN. The travel is part of the fun, and part of the recruiting you can do down the road. Exposure, in a larger area, for your team. But, rest assured, they will condense the travel as much as possible.
It wasn't just that. Due to budgeting issues, the school dropped 5 programs; baseball, men's and women's gymnastics, and men's and women's fencing. They couldnt just slash all women's problems, so mens baseball, which was a big revenue loser, was 1 of the 5.I recall it being dropped because of different numbers. Seems they needed to find a way to have near equal numbers of men and women in the athletic programs. Baseball was the odd man out.
True. But in professional sports we have divisions with conferences or leagues. The idea is that you play your division more and travel shorter distances. With the ridiculous cost of travel today you would think that would be smart. But then I never understood how the Dallas Cowboys have been in an east division and/or conference since their inception in 1960.They do that now for Holiday tournaments, NCAA tournament, and will often take two game swings from one coast to the other. Since all travel today is by charter jet, they don't really have too many hardships involved. With football, since it's only once a week games, they already do that, by scheduling games in far off locations. Players often go to teams that do that kind of traveling now. They want to see something, not spend their time in a bus going between Evanston, IL and Bloomington, IN. The travel is part of the fun, and part of the recruiting you can do down the road. Exposure, in a larger area, for your team. But, rest assured, they will condense the travel as much as possible.
If it was just UCLA and USC joining the BIG10, the travel logistics would fall mainly on those 2 teams. Since they would be the ones traveling a long distance to EVERY Big10 road game on their schedules. A team like Wisconsin, may face only 1 of those 2 schools each season and it might end up being a home game at that. Even if they faced both teams in one season, travel to the West coast would be for 2 games maximum.Rest assured, the Big 10 is working on the issues surrounding logistics. They wouldn't even consider expansion to both coasts, if they didn't have that figured out.