$$ vs Ring

[XPack]

For example, Reggie coming here vs Suh moving to Dolphins. Do players actually value money more than the opportunity to win a SB?

Does NFL pay far too much attention on personal honors at the cost of the team honors? I mean we have all time great QB who have won zilch with their teams. And you have 'merely good' players with multiple rings? Which one is more important?

Is taking a pay cut for a chance to win the SB more important than earning money in a dead end team?

If you were a NFL player what would you choose?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

All depends on the player and their situation IMO. A guy who has been around and has his future securely tucked away in various investments is going to value a SB ring higher than a guy who is hoping to feed, clothe and house his family for as far forward as his career allows it to.

Personally, I would take the $$ over a ring. A ring sits in a drawer with memories attached. $$ in the bank has the power to do a whole lot more.

 

[Dantés]

Completely individualized.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

It depends on the player, and their age. A selfish player only wants money. A team guy will want to go play for a winning team and be part of something throughout their career. Once you hit age 30, the selfish guy may want a ring, and take a little less to get the ring. Whereas the un-selfish guy is always out to make the team better regardless of age.

 

[Half Empty]

It depends on the player, and their age. A selfish player only wants money. A team guy will want to go play for a winning team and be part of something throughout their career. Once you hit age 30, the selfish guy may want a ring, and take a little less to get the ring. Whereas the un-selfish guy is always out to make the team better regardless of age.

Got time to list all of those in the NFL? Should be a pretty short list.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Since there is no guarantee on winning a Super Bowl, maybe the better way to phrase the question would be:

"If you had a choice of playing in Cleveland or New England, how much more money (if any) would it take to get you to choose Cleveland?"

 

[Firethorn1001]

If you were a NFL player what would you choose?

1 part comfort level, 1 part money, 1 part SB chance, 1 part playing time.

Knowing myself, I'd be miserable in NY or LA no matter how many SBs I was winning and I sure wouldn't want to take a pay cut with a short earning window or sit on the bench. Winning a SB would be great, but at the end of the day I'm sure I'd just realize that I need to earn what I could earn in the time frame I had in the NFL and if a SB happened, it would happen. I sure wouldn't short change myself in the long term just to chase winning.

 

[McKnowledge]

Personally, I would take the $$ over a ring. A ring sits in a drawer with memories attached. $$ in the bank has the power to do a whole lot more.

IDK. Winning the Super Bowl has monetary value and prestige, which can lead to more monetary value. I agree those contracts can set things up for your family if you handle your business, but when you die you can't take the money with you. Winning the Super Bowl establishes legacy. It has gotten guys (possibly unqualified) jobs and kept many players' accounts flush well past their prime.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

IDK. Winning the Super Bowl has monetary value and prestige, which can lead to more monetary value. I agree those contracts can set things up for your family if you handle your business, but when you die you can't take the money with you. Winning the Super Bowl establishes legacy. It has gotten guys (possibly unqualified) jobs and kept many players' accounts flush well past their prime.

Sure you can, if they bury the money with you, along with your Super Bowl ring.

 

[XPack]

It really is strange that for many the objective of playing in NFL is to make money. Not playing, not winning, but money.

I can understand if both go together to an certain extent, but the clear advantage money has still surprises me.

 

[Mavster]

It really is strange that for many the objective of playing in NFL is to make money. Not playing, not winning, but money.

I can understand if both go together to an certain extent, but the clear advantage money has still surprises me.

Why is it surprising? The NFL is a dangerous sport that most guys don't get to play very long.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It really is strange that for many the objective of playing in NFL is to make money. Not playing, not winning, but money.

I can understand if both go together to an certain extent, but the clear advantage money has still surprises me.

Amazing what we all do for money isn't it? Do you think that a lot of guys heading off to college on a football scholarship do it for the prestige?

 

[Spanky]

I would take the money. I think all but already wildly wealthy players would take the money.

 

[PackerDNA]

Money, brothers. It's all about the Benjamins.
Now, after you've made your money, and especially if you still don't have a ring by then, then I'd factor in getting a ring. I'd even take a little less money- without being foolish about it..

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Money, brothers. It's all about the Benjamins.
Now, after you've made your money, and especially if you still don't have a ring by then, then I'd factor in getting a ring. I'd even take a little less money- without being foolish about it..

Benjamins? I thought they were playing for the Donald's?

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[XPack]

Why is it surprising? The NFL is a dangerous sport that most guys don't get to play very long.

For a good player (say at least 1 pro bowl appearance) the average career would be around 9-10 years with a couple of 1-2 year peaks spread within. Give or take a year, I don't think it'd be too dissimilar to a NBA or NHL career.

 

[sschind]

For a guy who has made next to nothing his entire life such as myself, I'd take a ring or the opportunity to play for the Packers over a huge payday. My thinking is I am already living on little to nothing so even a league minimum deal will set me up pretty good. If I had the talent to be commanding more than that via FA the feeling would be even stronger. However I say that as a guy without that talent so its easy for me to say. If I were an NFL caliber player my opinion may change.

I'll answer Poker's question regarding the Browns or Patriots with a little twist. If I were as big a Browns fan as I am a Packers fan I'd take the Browns gig and I might even do it for less money. The way I see it if I am making millions a couple more won't matter for the feeling I would get by playing for my lifelong favorite team. If I had no allegiance either way and the money was the same I might choose the Patriots but there would be other things to consider. Is there a chance that my presence in Cleveland could make a difference in making them a better team. If my choice was go to the Patriots and win a ring and be consider nothing more than a cog in the gears of a championship team or go to the Browns and perhaps be a key gear in making the franchise a winner again I would probably choose the Browns. Even if it meant not actually winning a ring. Being a key part of turning the Browns into repeat playoff team would mean a lot more to me than being an role player with the Patriots.

Its a money driven league but I think the question of money or a ring is over simplified. With a lot of players there is more to it than that. Obviously a player near the end of his career who has made his millions may sign for less to get a ring. Likewise a young guy who got his ring on his rookie deal may be more concerned with how much money he could make than his chances of winning another.

If I had the choice of playing for the Packers for league minimum and playing for the viking as the highest paid player ever I'd choose the Packers. If I had the choice of playing for the Packers and never making the playoffs and playing for the viking and winning the Super Bowl...I'll wait for you to stop laughing... I'd choose the Packers. Any other team than the vikings, and probably the cowboys, I would have to think about it.

My brother in law is a huge Bears fan. One day my nephew asked his mom "Mom, If I get drafted by the vikings do you think dad would be mad?" His mom said "Kole, if you get drafted by the vikings I think your dad would paint everything he owned purple" Its a matter of perspective.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If I had the choice of playing for the Packers for league minimum and playing for the viking as the highest paid player ever I'd choose the Packers. If I had the choice of playing for the Packers and never making the playoffs and playing for the viking and winning the Super Bowl...I'll wait for you to stop laughing... I'd choose the Packers.

OK....you win the "true fan" award. BTW.....your statement is very believable until you linked the word "Viking" with "winning the Super Bowl"...that automatically put everything you said into sheer fantasy!

I consider myself a lifetime Packer fan, but would do it a bit different than you. I would take the money from the Vikings and make sure they DON'T make it to the Super Bowl or beat the Packers. Kind of my own version of Jay Cutler.

 

[sschind]

For example, Reggie coming here vs Suh moving to Dolphins. Do players actually value money more than the opportunity to win a SB?

Does NFL pay far too much attention on personal honors at the cost of the team honors? I mean we have all time great QB who have won zilch with their teams. And you have 'merely good' players with multiple rings? Which one is more important?

Is taking a pay cut for a chance to win the SB more important than earning money in a dead end team?

If you were a NFL player what would you choose?

What was the difference between Reggie coming here and Suh going to the Dolphins. If I am not mistaken the Packer gave Reggie a lot of money. I'm not sure if it was the biggest offer he had but it was pretty significant. If he did come here cheaper I don't think he gave us a huge discount .

Also, at the time I'm not sure the Packers were any further along in their development than the Dolphins were when Suh went there so to say Reggie came here for a better shot at a ring is a bit of a stretch. There may have been other reasons why Reggie chose the Packers but I'm not sure that it was because we offered him the best chance for a ring.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There may have been other reasons why Reggie chose the Packers but I'm not sure that it was because we offered him the best chance for a ring.

God told Reggie to come to Green Bay!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spo...order-to-get-reggie-white-to-sign-with-g.html

"Holmgren, meanwhile, also made one of the most famous phone calls in NFL recruiting history. White was a religious man, obviously, and he had made public mention right from the start that he would go where God wanted him to go. Well, as the story goes, Holmgren called White one night and when he got White's answering machine, Holmgren said into the machine, "Reggie, this is God. Come to Green Bay."

 

[sschind]

OK....you win the "true fan" award. BTW.....your statement is very believable until you linked the word "Viking" with "winning the Super Bowl"...that automatically put everything you said into sheer fantasy!

I consider myself a lifetime Packer fan, but would do it a bit different than you. I would take the money from the Vikings and make sure they DON'T make it to the Super Bowl or beat the Packers. Kind of my own version of Jay Cutler.

Now that's a different strategy I never consider as far as the viking/Super bowl comment I did wait for you to stop laughing before I went on.

Keep in mind that all I said was from the viewpoint of someone who will never have to face those decisions. It's pretty easy to say you will take the high ground in a situation where you know you will not be asked to prove it. I would guess that not many professional athletes ever get a chance to play for the teams they grew up rooting for. I would also guess that for most athletes that reach that level the chance to compete for any team outweighs the desire to play for their favorite team. If had the talent to be at that level, when push came to shove, I would probably feel the same way. For now, to all of you who said you would take the money I can do this

 

[okcpackerfan]

For example, Reggie coming here vs Suh moving to Dolphins. Do players actually value money more than the opportunity to win a SB?

Does NFL pay far too much attention on personal honors at the cost of the team honors? I mean we have all time great QB who have won zilch with their teams. And you have 'merely good' players with multiple rings? Which one is more important?

Is taking a pay cut for a chance to win the SB more important than earning money in a dead end team?

If you were a NFL player what would you choose?

Funny how people remember history --- the packers gave Reggie more money than any other team was offering him at the time.

 

[RRyder]

God told Reggie to come to Green Bay!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spo...order-to-get-reggie-white-to-sign-with-g.html

"Holmgren, meanwhile, also made one of the most famous phone calls in NFL recruiting history. White was a religious man, obviously, and he had made public mention right from the start that he would go where God wanted him to go. Well, as the story goes, Holmgren called White one night and when he got White's answering machine, Holmgren said into the machine, "Reggie, this is God. Come to Green Bay."

God told Reggie to take the money. It damn sure wasn't because we were viewed as a contender or looked at as a franshise that was about to start a 25+ year run as a contender or even one that was going to be a .500 team

Theres not a whole lot different between Suh to the Dolphins and us signing Reggie.

The idea that he signed with us because we gave him a legit shot at a ring is laughable.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

God told Reggie to take the money. It damn sure wasn't because we were viewed as a contender or looked at as a franshise that was about to start a 25+ year run as a contender or even one that was going to be a .500 team

Theres not a whole lot different between Suh to the Dolphins and us signing Reggie.

The idea that he signed with us because we gave him a legit shot at a ring is laughable.

Agreed. But I can tell you one thing Reggie did get out of his time with the Packers, which was probably even more important to a man like him, the satisfaction and pride of being an integral part of helping to turn the franchise around. I don't know if he had that vision coming into Green Bay, but I am pretty darn sure he felt it when he left.

 

[RRyder]

Agreed. But I can tell you one thing Reggie did get out of his time with the Packers, which was probably even more important to a man like him, the satisfaction and pride of being an integral part of helping to turn the franchise around. I don't know if he had that vision coming into Green Bay, but I am pretty darn sure he felt it when he left.

Well yeah. I'm also sure alot of players have visions of turning around down trodden franshises when they sign with them though.