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Message: <blockquote data-quote="longtimefan" data-source="post: 729591" data-attributes="member: 145">I don't think it was garbled...Let me give exact convo againI said, how's Vince..Answer.. He is out of the boot, hey look at this picture of he and I..Then he shows me a picture at a picnic from July 4th ...I asked will he be at TC..Answer--yeah, he is there..They have him on supplements, they have him on a strict routine with food and training..The surgery cost the PAckers 100K..Used stem cell and bone marrow, and he gained 25 pounds. .I said , he will lose it now that TC is starting..He agreed that he would lose it in TC...I asked, maybe thats why Clay was accused of roids, supplements and what the packers have him doing in offseason--Answer, it could be.I asked is he excited to get going..Answer he is itching to start and should be good to go when they start..But may hold him back 2 weeks.Again, I dont know if the 25 pounds was at July 4th, or now..Dont know if from no exercise, or from muscle...Vince may have told my co worker on July 4th ...I gained 25 pounds during all this.so looking back on it..July 4th may have been when he was 25 pounds heavier. I believe he told me boot came off the week of the 10th....If that is true, he had close to 3 weeks to lose the 25 pounds.</blockquote>

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