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<blockquote data-quote="GreenBaySlacker" data-source="post: 656956" data-attributes="member: 9780"><p>Ok. So you admit Seattle runs a 3-4 but are 4-3 at heart..... You could easily say that about my ideas. You could also say that Greenbay plays a 3-4 but is a 2-4 at heart. I think theres a reason our 3-4 is still hit or miss after nearly a decade.</p><p>"we need two good OLBs"... I say we have 2 hall of famers. "We need a 280 pound DE"... I say they cant stop the run, and they cant collapse the pocket without help... On and on. Our scheme rarely allows saftys to get into the pass rush. I believe its because we dont have enough beef up fromt, taking the trenches.</p><p></p><p>Hear me out.</p><p></p><p>A real NT. Our old 4-3 we had Grave Digger, then Grady Jackson... We had big agile guys at DT but havnt gotten one for the 3-4. Raji was a good starter. But we havnt had anybody 350+ in a decade? ever? Let alone a Gilbert Brown Nose who would run plays down at nearly 400 pounds!!! In my scheme, a dominant NT is where it all starts. AND ENDS if you dont find one that FORCES a double team every play he is out there... Thats a one man advantage...</p><p></p><p>The Strong side DE is another NT basicly. But more like a Guion/Raji type of DE. 320+ pounds and quick for his size. But if the defense is going to have freedom to strike from any direction. We will need another DE that forces double teams.</p><p></p><p>The weak side DE is still 300+ pounds. Like a Daniels type. He needs to be able to hold his own against the run, and still be able to move. A guy who will still give a Tackle a run for his money.</p><p></p><p>Maybe this is too much to ask. But this is what I would strive for. 3 guys that take 5 Linemen to stop........</p><p></p><p>Now, if this can be accomplished. Look at the flexability you have to blitz with LBs and even secondary. With that flexability the LBs can strike where ever there is NOT a blocker. Basicly with 4 LBs spread across the front. One can strike where ever they dont have blockers.</p><p></p><p>If Line is getting a push with 3. LBs will be cleaning up. And thats when we can get creative with blitzes from the secondary. But like our dominant Defensive linemen who can get us one man advantages. WRs are the wild card on the opposing offenses. Premiere WRs basicly demand the double team. Taking away our advantage. This is a pressure defense, and the last thing you want is to let them get behind us... So after premiere Dline, the next most valuable positions are premiere CBs, who can lock down those top tier WRs, 1 on 1. Do all Safetys are also a high priority... Premiere OLBs are more of a luxury player. Obviously having a Mathews coming around the corner is nice to have. But the key is being able to hit them where they dont have blockers. Not being able to beat them with speed and power when they know its coming...</p><p></p><p>Obviously this is a rough rundown of a defensive mindset. From there you develope zones to compensate for some blitzes. Compensate for weaknesses. And capitalize on the advantages completely...</p><p></p><p>Now you look at our roster. We have the secondary. Sheilds is as close to a shut down as we could expect without selling the farm. Randall is young, fast, physical. Safetys are one of the best Duos in the league. Between Peppers/Perry/Mathews. We have IMO, two beastly OLBs and Mathews playing inside. Thats 3 guys who can get after the QB effectively. The Dline is lacking. We need another star at nose, now that Raji has basicly retired. Daniels/ Raji/ Guion would have been a good lineup. But if we were to add a big time rookie. Say, Daniels/Raji/rookie, with Jones/Pennel/Guion as rotational guys. That would be destructive enough. But as it stands, No Raji. No big time rookie yet. Ugh. Another average year coming from our defense...Guaranteed. Even with two future hall of fame OLBs for your 2-4, I mean 3-4....</p><p></p><p>Essentially, Mathews isnt a good example of the ILBs we need. He is better at OLB, and is a waste in coverage. Cant have guys like him in coverage all day. But a ILB of his calliber would help bring it all together. If we need to bring in a nickel, I'd say we take away one of the ILBs instead of Dlinemen. We cant give up the trenches just because they bring a pass formation out. You force them to protect their QB! Cut off the short routes, and get after the QB!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenBaySlacker, post: 656956, member: 9780"] Ok. So you admit Seattle runs a 3-4 but are 4-3 at heart..... You could easily say that about my ideas. You could also say that Greenbay plays a 3-4 but is a 2-4 at heart. I think theres a reason our 3-4 is still hit or miss after nearly a decade. "we need two good OLBs"... I say we have 2 hall of famers. "We need a 280 pound DE"... I say they cant stop the run, and they cant collapse the pocket without help... On and on. Our scheme rarely allows saftys to get into the pass rush. I believe its because we dont have enough beef up fromt, taking the trenches. Hear me out. A real NT. Our old 4-3 we had Grave Digger, then Grady Jackson... We had big agile guys at DT but havnt gotten one for the 3-4. Raji was a good starter. But we havnt had anybody 350+ in a decade? ever? Let alone a Gilbert Brown Nose who would run plays down at nearly 400 pounds!!! In my scheme, a dominant NT is where it all starts. AND ENDS if you dont find one that FORCES a double team every play he is out there... Thats a one man advantage... The Strong side DE is another NT basicly. But more like a Guion/Raji type of DE. 320+ pounds and quick for his size. But if the defense is going to have freedom to strike from any direction. We will need another DE that forces double teams. The weak side DE is still 300+ pounds. Like a Daniels type. He needs to be able to hold his own against the run, and still be able to move. A guy who will still give a Tackle a run for his money. Maybe this is too much to ask. But this is what I would strive for. 3 guys that take 5 Linemen to stop........ Now, if this can be accomplished. Look at the flexability you have to blitz with LBs and even secondary. With that flexability the LBs can strike where ever there is NOT a blocker. Basicly with 4 LBs spread across the front. One can strike where ever they dont have blockers. If Line is getting a push with 3. LBs will be cleaning up. And thats when we can get creative with blitzes from the secondary. But like our dominant Defensive linemen who can get us one man advantages. WRs are the wild card on the opposing offenses. Premiere WRs basicly demand the double team. Taking away our advantage. This is a pressure defense, and the last thing you want is to let them get behind us... So after premiere Dline, the next most valuable positions are premiere CBs, who can lock down those top tier WRs, 1 on 1. Do all Safetys are also a high priority... Premiere OLBs are more of a luxury player. Obviously having a Mathews coming around the corner is nice to have. But the key is being able to hit them where they dont have blockers. Not being able to beat them with speed and power when they know its coming... Obviously this is a rough rundown of a defensive mindset. From there you develope zones to compensate for some blitzes. Compensate for weaknesses. And capitalize on the advantages completely... Now you look at our roster. We have the secondary. Sheilds is as close to a shut down as we could expect without selling the farm. Randall is young, fast, physical. Safetys are one of the best Duos in the league. Between Peppers/Perry/Mathews. We have IMO, two beastly OLBs and Mathews playing inside. Thats 3 guys who can get after the QB effectively. The Dline is lacking. We need another star at nose, now that Raji has basicly retired. Daniels/ Raji/ Guion would have been a good lineup. But if we were to add a big time rookie. Say, Daniels/Raji/rookie, with Jones/Pennel/Guion as rotational guys. That would be destructive enough. But as it stands, No Raji. No big time rookie yet. Ugh. Another average year coming from our defense...Guaranteed. Even with two future hall of fame OLBs for your 2-4, I mean 3-4.... Essentially, Mathews isnt a good example of the ILBs we need. He is better at OLB, and is a waste in coverage. Cant have guys like him in coverage all day. But a ILB of his calliber would help bring it all together. If we need to bring in a nickel, I'd say we take away one of the ILBs instead of Dlinemen. We cant give up the trenches just because they bring a pass formation out. You force them to protect their QB! Cut off the short routes, and get after the QB! [/QUOTE]
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