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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 994225" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>Define "adequate" in this context. Hypothetically, MLF could have called a run every time and the defense responds with a heavy box. Smart play is to check to the pass, because heavy-box favors the defense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What is the point of running more if it isn't successful (the 18, not the 34)? Why run when the team you are facing has a great run defense and a terrible pass defense?</p><p></p><p>Against the Bills, did they invite the run? I legitimately ask. It is possible they played 2-high most of the game and happily gave up those yards because they felt they could give up those 200+ yards on the ground and still win.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This isn't accurate. We had 25 and 28 carries respectively against the Lions this year. Both resulted in losses.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Are the number of rushes causal or correlative?</p><p></p><p>Teams tend to run more with a lead. Did we win because we ran more? Or did we run more because we were winning? Best example would be carries broken down by quarter. If running led to wins, I'd expect more runs early, or when the game is in question. Not picking on you here, this is something that I think is hard to quantify accurately.</p><p></p><p>Cap might be able to pull up stats to prove or disprove this, but I'm not even sure where to look.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what you're saying here. That we threw the last down each time? I'm having a hard time reading your intent of this statement. Probably my issue. Could you please restate?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we agree here, at least well enough. I still mostly blame the offensive woes on our lack of pass catchers. Even more than the thumb.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correlation or Causation? See above. We also failed to pass effectively in our losses.</p><p></p><p>The part that I think (and I believe Cap thinks similarly) is that carries alone doesn't matter. You have to have success doing it. Ironically, committing to the run early, <strong>when it's not working,</strong> may result in more passing attempts. Run lots for little yards, 3 and out, punt. Other team scores. Repeat a couple of times. Suddenly you're down 13 or 17 points. You may be out of time to consider running. </p><p></p><p>Looping back around to where this specific thread started, I expect the Packers to have to pass early next. Not because MLF has a broken brain or Love just wants to throw the ball 2000 times, but because of how the other teams will choose to attack us....</p><p></p><p>Imagine you are the defensive coordinator facing the Packers. It's week 1. How do you play the Packers? Me? I'd play heavy in the box, do everything I can to take away the run and force Love to beat me with his arm. I expect that to be THE formula until such time the passing game demonstrates that will punish you to play 8 men the whole time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 994225, member: 4199"] Define "adequate" in this context. Hypothetically, MLF could have called a run every time and the defense responds with a heavy box. Smart play is to check to the pass, because heavy-box favors the defense. What is the point of running more if it isn't successful (the 18, not the 34)? Why run when the team you are facing has a great run defense and a terrible pass defense? Against the Bills, did they invite the run? I legitimately ask. It is possible they played 2-high most of the game and happily gave up those yards because they felt they could give up those 200+ yards on the ground and still win. This isn't accurate. We had 25 and 28 carries respectively against the Lions this year. Both resulted in losses. Are the number of rushes causal or correlative? Teams tend to run more with a lead. Did we win because we ran more? Or did we run more because we were winning? Best example would be carries broken down by quarter. If running led to wins, I'd expect more runs early, or when the game is in question. Not picking on you here, this is something that I think is hard to quantify accurately. Cap might be able to pull up stats to prove or disprove this, but I'm not even sure where to look. I'm not sure what you're saying here. That we threw the last down each time? I'm having a hard time reading your intent of this statement. Probably my issue. Could you please restate? I think we agree here, at least well enough. I still mostly blame the offensive woes on our lack of pass catchers. Even more than the thumb. Correlation or Causation? See above. We also failed to pass effectively in our losses. The part that I think (and I believe Cap thinks similarly) is that carries alone doesn't matter. You have to have success doing it. Ironically, committing to the run early, [B]when it's not working,[/B] may result in more passing attempts. Run lots for little yards, 3 and out, punt. Other team scores. Repeat a couple of times. Suddenly you're down 13 or 17 points. You may be out of time to consider running. Looping back around to where this specific thread started, I expect the Packers to have to pass early next. Not because MLF has a broken brain or Love just wants to throw the ball 2000 times, but because of how the other teams will choose to attack us.... Imagine you are the defensive coordinator facing the Packers. It's week 1. How do you play the Packers? Me? I'd play heavy in the box, do everything I can to take away the run and force Love to beat me with his arm. I expect that to be THE formula until such time the passing game demonstrates that will punish you to play 8 men the whole time. [/QUOTE]
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