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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 878829"><p>You're right--that's talking-heads-like but not that deep. Rodgers' prickly and sensitive disposition is an overbaked storyline.</p><p></p><p>15 years in the league and the only time that came pointedly to the fore, besides the occasional comment you'd expect from an ego that is required for that job, was the 2018 ugliness with McCarthy. In retrospect, perhaps we should be thankful for whatever contribution Rodgers made in pushing him out the dorr. Proof in the putting and all that. Murphy's probably thankful Rodgers absorbed a lot of the public heat. He would have had his own internal heat to deal with.</p><p></p><p>McCarthy started losing the locker room in 2017 when the player leadership committee recommended that Randall be dumped after his tantrum and McCarthy said "no". Something tells me Randall had other prior baggage we don't know about. That might be the starting point of that vague "lack of accountability" as a perported reason for his firing, and perhaps the main reason besides the losing.</p><p></p><p>Then there's the Jennings (and his sister) nonsense and Finley who himself is not known for circumspection. The Packers offered Jennings $8 mil per year prior to his last season and turned it down. That was very good money at the time. What then? Recriminations that Rodgers didn't take $2 mil per year out of his own pocket for the kitty? Finley was all over the place all the time about everything. Scratch that. Driver, the most credible of the critics, said Rodgers did not cover for receivers in the room. Huh? Do your job. Prickly on the field? Yeah when a receiver runs a bad route. Not stumping for certain players to be re-signed?</p><p></p><p>I have a one word answer to all this: Brady. Or a phrase, if you prefer: it's about rings, not personality. Brady screams at teammates on the bench, and he sure wasn't saying, "C'mon guys, we can do it." He screams at coaches on the sidelines. One time I thought he might jump the guy. When you're winning that's "competitive fire". When you aren't it's is "attitude". Belichick turns over the roster like most people change their underwear, and he sure wasn't getting Brady's OK. It's good to be king, though.</p><p></p><p>I think Rodgers put it best this past season, saying he's getting a little old and cranky. In football years he's a senior citizen. That's about as far as it goes.</p><p></p><p>As for keeping his head cool so he can perform well, it's not like he'd be taking the field the next day or week. I bet Rodgers was somewhere between pissed and disappointed as the draft fell out, maybe more disappointed or pissed about not getting a WR of some substance than seeing the wanabe successor taken in the first eouns. Rodgers was pretty circumspect shortly thereafter--something like "it's a business, guys toward the end of careers often have to move on, yada, yada, but I plan to play for quite a while and hope it is here, yada, yada". Sounds about right to me.</p><p></p><p>Gutekunst has been talking about and signaling a high QB pick for two off seasons given who he had on his site visit list. The Love pick wasn't that big a shock. I think I had Love for the 3rd. or 4th. round, I can't recall which. The only shock element was where he was taken, but less of a shock after it was reported that morning that Gutekunst was calling teams about trading up in the first round. When I read that my reaction was, "He couldn't, he wouldn't. Or would he?"</p><p></p><p>Now, as a manager, do you think it prudent to address an employee immediately after disappointing or angering news was delivered by somebody else, in this case the TV? Or do you think it would be best for a little cooling off period to mitigate the chance of a knee-jerk confrontation? That's worth considering especially since the next day of work is months away. Now, according to Demovsky, there is peace in the kingdom, all's well that ends well. If one were going to put stock in the prior talking head stuff then you might as well put stock in this report.</p><p></p><p>We can now talk our heads off about how Jackson does not have what it takes to win in the playoffs or what Newton will or won't do in New England. I think I see yet another Belichick offensive scheme overhaul coming. Would that be the 5th. or the 6th.? Rodgers is now boring.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They didn't have to "tell him". He saw it on TV. The question is what's the best time to discuss it with him. It never occured to them that Rodgers might have a reaction and also forgot about his existance for how long? One day, two days? Never. Whether it was my cooling off scenario, or they were just too d*mn busy during the most important 3 days of the year, or they were sending a message about who's boss, they knew what they were doing.</p><p></p><p>By the way, does anybody think Thompson ever worried about Rodgers "feelings" or discussed a roster move with him, or called him after a draft pick? "Hey, Roddy-Roddy, I got you Adams in the second round. You'll love him!" LOL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 878829"] You're right--that's talking-heads-like but not that deep. Rodgers' prickly and sensitive disposition is an overbaked storyline. 15 years in the league and the only time that came pointedly to the fore, besides the occasional comment you'd expect from an ego that is required for that job, was the 2018 ugliness with McCarthy. In retrospect, perhaps we should be thankful for whatever contribution Rodgers made in pushing him out the dorr. Proof in the putting and all that. Murphy's probably thankful Rodgers absorbed a lot of the public heat. He would have had his own internal heat to deal with. McCarthy started losing the locker room in 2017 when the player leadership committee recommended that Randall be dumped after his tantrum and McCarthy said "no". Something tells me Randall had other prior baggage we don't know about. That might be the starting point of that vague "lack of accountability" as a perported reason for his firing, and perhaps the main reason besides the losing. Then there's the Jennings (and his sister) nonsense and Finley who himself is not known for circumspection. The Packers offered Jennings $8 mil per year prior to his last season and turned it down. That was very good money at the time. What then? Recriminations that Rodgers didn't take $2 mil per year out of his own pocket for the kitty? Finley was all over the place all the time about everything. Scratch that. Driver, the most credible of the critics, said Rodgers did not cover for receivers in the room. Huh? Do your job. Prickly on the field? Yeah when a receiver runs a bad route. Not stumping for certain players to be re-signed? I have a one word answer to all this: Brady. Or a phrase, if you prefer: it's about rings, not personality. Brady screams at teammates on the bench, and he sure wasn't saying, "C'mon guys, we can do it." He screams at coaches on the sidelines. One time I thought he might jump the guy. When you're winning that's "competitive fire". When you aren't it's is "attitude". Belichick turns over the roster like most people change their underwear, and he sure wasn't getting Brady's OK. It's good to be king, though. I think Rodgers put it best this past season, saying he's getting a little old and cranky. In football years he's a senior citizen. That's about as far as it goes. As for keeping his head cool so he can perform well, it's not like he'd be taking the field the next day or week. I bet Rodgers was somewhere between pissed and disappointed as the draft fell out, maybe more disappointed or pissed about not getting a WR of some substance than seeing the wanabe successor taken in the first eouns. Rodgers was pretty circumspect shortly thereafter--something like "it's a business, guys toward the end of careers often have to move on, yada, yada, but I plan to play for quite a while and hope it is here, yada, yada". Sounds about right to me. Gutekunst has been talking about and signaling a high QB pick for two off seasons given who he had on his site visit list. The Love pick wasn't that big a shock. I think I had Love for the 3rd. or 4th. round, I can't recall which. The only shock element was where he was taken, but less of a shock after it was reported that morning that Gutekunst was calling teams about trading up in the first round. When I read that my reaction was, "He couldn't, he wouldn't. Or would he?" Now, as a manager, do you think it prudent to address an employee immediately after disappointing or angering news was delivered by somebody else, in this case the TV? Or do you think it would be best for a little cooling off period to mitigate the chance of a knee-jerk confrontation? That's worth considering especially since the next day of work is months away. Now, according to Demovsky, there is peace in the kingdom, all's well that ends well. If one were going to put stock in the prior talking head stuff then you might as well put stock in this report. We can now talk our heads off about how Jackson does not have what it takes to win in the playoffs or what Newton will or won't do in New England. I think I see yet another Belichick offensive scheme overhaul coming. Would that be the 5th. or the 6th.? Rodgers is now boring. They didn't have to "tell him". He saw it on TV. The question is what's the best time to discuss it with him. It never occured to them that Rodgers might have a reaction and also forgot about his existance for how long? One day, two days? Never. Whether it was my cooling off scenario, or they were just too d*mn busy during the most important 3 days of the year, or they were sending a message about who's boss, they knew what they were doing. By the way, does anybody think Thompson ever worried about Rodgers "feelings" or discussed a roster move with him, or called him after a draft pick? "Hey, Roddy-Roddy, I got you Adams in the second round. You'll love him!" LOL [/QUOTE]
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