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Message: <blockquote data-quote="all about da packers" data-source="post: 49291" data-attributes="member: 227">Phil, I disagree with you about Orton. Yes he was a solid choice in the fourth round, but the fact is that Orton played terrible. And you can't use "he played good enough to win" nonsense, because the fact is he was bailed out by his D. He was plan awful during his time as a starter. And that is the only reason Orton has been better than Rodgers so far, because of the fact that Grossman was injured.And as for Rodgers, he only played in pre-season, when he was barely JUST starting to digest the playbook. He played some down the strech in garbage time, so that is unfair to judge him, as basically the same effort is not given during garbage time. The reason you do not see much optimism for the possibility of Rodgers starting is for the simple fact that ALL QB's will struggle during their first year as starter. Rodgers is no exception to the rule. Rodgers playing means the season is more or less a throw away, and fans should just hope Rodgers stays healthy enough to finish the season and continue learning.Packers D is no where near Bears, and that is why it is not possible to have much optimism if Rodgers does start.</blockquote>

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