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<blockquote data-quote="OldSchool101" data-source="post: 1016338" data-attributes="member: 10086"><p>He’s correct he should’nt have imo. First of all and foremost. Rarely do flags get thrown on a Hail Mary. Unless you blatantly tackle someone or just isn’t happening. Secondly when I reviewed that play? Kelce overran position on the ball with a Defender trailing him. He tried to recover by stopping to change directions but Campbell had momentum behind him. No way was Kelce catching that ball as it was Waaaay behind him. That should be factored. That ball was 3-4 yards behind him into a crowd and he knows it. O% chance he overcomes a ball that wasn’t even near him and is surrounded by bodies. His best chances could’ve been a 1% chance at a deflection at best.</p><p></p><p>The MVS play was a clear foul. Although not as egregious as everyone is making it. Once the DB looks back for the ball he regains the ability to try to catch it. He was reaching over to slap the ball and made some incidental contact. Bordering on a foul, but because he actually hit the ball first with his hand shows his intent to go after the ball, not the player. Once the Defender is seeing touching the ball in an attempt to catch or deflect? It becomes a matter of Referee discretion. Could it be called? Yes. Was it egregious? No.</p><p></p><p>I’ll agree that the MVS play looked more blatant in slow motion and if you didn’t watch the whole game might vary your opinion too much. In real time sfter the Packers being robbed on near back to back plays? It wasn’t a bad no call. Those are bang bang and the Ref is given discretion to allow leniency for both players to go after the catch. MVS stopped in stride to adjust backwards and you could say interfered with our DB going for an INT. Those are 50/50 balls and had the placement been better and MVS not had to stop on a dime to reach backwards in an awkward attempt to track the ball behind him?</p><p></p><p>Defenders are receivers as long as they focus on playing the ball they are granted leniency by rule. I don’t believe the contact (which. Agreed happened) was egregious level or purposeful. This is football and these are bang bang plays.</p><p></p><p>I did see 2 egregious level holding on KC with Preston and Karl that allowed KC to continue drives. Neither got called and both resulted in Chiefs 1st downs at midfield or at the Packers 45 instead of 2nd 18 and 3rd n 28 from inside the KC30</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OldSchool101, post: 1016338, member: 10086"] He’s correct he should’nt have imo. First of all and foremost. Rarely do flags get thrown on a Hail Mary. Unless you blatantly tackle someone or just isn’t happening. Secondly when I reviewed that play? Kelce overran position on the ball with a Defender trailing him. He tried to recover by stopping to change directions but Campbell had momentum behind him. No way was Kelce catching that ball as it was Waaaay behind him. That should be factored. That ball was 3-4 yards behind him into a crowd and he knows it. O% chance he overcomes a ball that wasn’t even near him and is surrounded by bodies. His best chances could’ve been a 1% chance at a deflection at best. The MVS play was a clear foul. Although not as egregious as everyone is making it. Once the DB looks back for the ball he regains the ability to try to catch it. He was reaching over to slap the ball and made some incidental contact. Bordering on a foul, but because he actually hit the ball first with his hand shows his intent to go after the ball, not the player. Once the Defender is seeing touching the ball in an attempt to catch or deflect? It becomes a matter of Referee discretion. Could it be called? Yes. Was it egregious? No. I’ll agree that the MVS play looked more blatant in slow motion and if you didn’t watch the whole game might vary your opinion too much. In real time sfter the Packers being robbed on near back to back plays? It wasn’t a bad no call. Those are bang bang and the Ref is given discretion to allow leniency for both players to go after the catch. MVS stopped in stride to adjust backwards and you could say interfered with our DB going for an INT. Those are 50/50 balls and had the placement been better and MVS not had to stop on a dime to reach backwards in an awkward attempt to track the ball behind him? Defenders are receivers as long as they focus on playing the ball they are granted leniency by rule. I don’t believe the contact (which. Agreed happened) was egregious level or purposeful. This is football and these are bang bang plays. I did see 2 egregious level holding on KC with Preston and Karl that allowed KC to continue drives. Neither got called and both resulted in Chiefs 1st downs at midfield or at the Packers 45 instead of 2nd 18 and 3rd n 28 from inside the KC30 [/QUOTE]
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