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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1061858" data-attributes="member: 18006">We are deeply caring people.I actually deep-dove into this a month or two ago, and found a lot of reporting indicating that whatever bug he had up his *** in 2020 had actually first started crawling in there in 2018. A lot of that reporting was supported by quote from Rodgers himself. I used my AI app to collate all the details, and will paste  the whole thing here (it's not copyrighted material)This is long, so fair warning... Half Empty? You're gonna wanna scroll past it, and maybe a few others will too. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tongue.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue    :p" data-shortname=":p" />But it is pretty detailed and thorough, for those who are interested in the whole story;  evidently Rodgers was a lot grumpier for the last several years than any of us could have guessed....For those who don't use AI yet, the way it works is that it crawls the entire internet and scrapes every detail it can find on the topic (which in this case was, "what events and developments began happening in green bay in 2018 that first began to alienate aaron rodgers and cause friction and tension between him and the packer organization"), and then organizes and summarizes it. It's usually amazingly accurate and comprehensive, and in this case, it agrees with everything I found myself with google a month or two back.Except it took 20 seconds instead of 45 minutes, and organized it better than i could have.And again, most of this is supported by interviews with Rodgers in the intervening years; the AI app provides links to every source - they just don't show up when I copy and paste. So, that's 2018.There were more incidents of that nature in 2018 that AI did not find, such as a time when McCarthy sent in a play to the huddle, and Rodgers paused a moment, said "**** that ****", and called a different play - reported by Mercedes Lewis (already a 13-year vet), who said he'd never quite seen a quarterback do that before, and initially assumed it must be a crazy joke. But he and other receivers reported that this was frequent, that some games Rodgers changed more than half the plays that came in from the sideline, and didn't care what anyone thought about it.There was more history n 2019 and 20, regarding receiver Jake Kumerow, upon whom Rodgers apparently had developed something of a man crush. In an interview, Rodgers  described Kumerow as a "fantastic, steady player" and a "roster lock," emphasizing his reliability and value to the team. This was on the evening of Friday, September 4, 2020.Early the morning of September 5, 2019, Green Bay cut Kumerow.This was was described by multiple sources as a "significant blow to Rodgers’ relationship with the organization", with NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport calling it "a little bit of a death knell in the relationship" and reporting that it "drove Rodgers nuts".A few months later, some reporters asked Aaron what he thought about some young player, and he said something like "I'm not going to comment on personnel; last time I did that the guy got cut the next morning." Rodgers apparently viewed it as a personal bop on the beak. Whether or not that was justified, who knows, because.... well... Rodgers.Additionally, when McCarthy was finally voted off the island in 2019, Rodgers supposedly huffed and puffed because he was not personally consulted as to who they should bring in to replace McCarthy. There was reporting that he felt he should have been a part of that decision, even though he did think Lafleur was a good hire.Rodgers also expressed a lot of frustration that the team was making major personnel moves without including him in the discussions....[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.waow.com/sports/qb-rodgers-shares-what-led-to-displeasure-with-the-packers-says-he-wanted-to-give/article_7ebcf5ff-8548-53a9-9b4a-b026c0ad414e.html[/URL]Other reporting suggests that he had a serious grudge against McCarthy ever since Day One, but whether that's true or not, who can say.[URL unfurl="true"]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay[/URL]This is a point of view I've seen reporters hint at a lot over the years, but never express as directly as this article does. Why that is, I can't say. Maybe it's ********, all speculation, over the top. Maybe it has some validity, but still too much too far. Or maybe it just has some truth to it, but we'll never know how much at this point.But whatever happened evidently started happening years before any of us saw it starting to happen. Which side is right, which side is wrong, I'm not gonna pick a side.  I know Gutekunst has said that he wished he'd handled the whole situation differently, and I think I've seen Aaron say similar. Whatever is done is done, and we're all at where we are at.But the narrative seems to indicate that it didn't begin to unravel the moment Jordan Love was drafted - for whatever reason or reasons, it had been building toward that flashpoint for several years, and if it hadn't been that then it would have been something else later. Cuz that's just where that train was heading.</blockquote>

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