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<blockquote data-quote="pizzle" data-source="post: 786785" data-attributes="member: 12428"><p>On the GW TD to Cobb I initially thought that was vintage Rodgers holding onto the ball to manufacture the scramble drill big play. Then I watched the play over and over. The Bears were in a Cover 2 Man Robber defense, where Eddie Jackson jumped Cobb's initial over route and Cobb's defender replaced Jackson as the other free defender playing a safety role. Well, Cobb's initial defender basically just fronted Allison's similar complimentary over route, which allowed Cobb to pivot, reverse field and simultaneously snag a perfectly placed ball just beyond the outstretched hands of Jackson. The Bears had no one in the middle of the field due to Adams' deep route causing the FS to play him over the top and the rest is history.</p><p></p><p>The point of bringing it up is that the 2 safety shell has been the preferred defensive secondary alignment for years now to attempt to slow down the Packer offense under Rodgers. The play call and execution to me said that GB's offensive minds going into this year have some ideas on how to effectively beat those looks. Those ideas are predicated on Aaron understanding that holding onto the ball as long as possible isn't always the best way to go-it's figuring out what the defense is doing and then attacking as quick as possible, only extending the play as necessary.</p><p></p><p>To your points, I think that by letting Jordy go, the process of the "meeting" might have already happened this off-season. I think more combo routes are coming this season than in the past, as well as designed man-coverage beaters. I also think that the emphasis on pass catchers getting open quicker was apart of that meeting, not just Aaron getting rid of it quicker.</p><p></p><p>Essentially, by replacing Jordy with Jimmy, we got a bigger, more versatile decoy than what #87 had became. Adams already overtook #18 and #87 as the #1 WR option last year. But now, the offense will utilize Cobb's abilities to beat coverage faster than Jordy on a more consistent basis. As great as Aaron and Jordy's connection was, as of late I noticed that it felt like Aaron would slightly attempt to force Jordy the ball instead of getting rid of the ball on-schedule to whomever was open. As you stated, in the 2nd half of the Bears game #12 was getting rid of it fast and with conviction outside of a couple throws.</p><p></p><p>I think that Aaron will still have attempts at shot plays like the G-Mo TD. But not only do I agree that being more on-schedule (even if that simply means letting #12 go no-huddle in 11 personnel earlier in the game) will help the offense be more unstoppable but I believe that is a point of emphasis overall this season. That's why the Packers were okay with not keeping Nelson/made sure to grab Graham and Lewis. They wanted more diversity (ability to play 12 personnel with a good blocking TE/have some 13 personnel looks) while maintaining their offensive style, just pairing it down to be faster developing. Nelson is still a savvy vet WR but he was having trouble beating press coverage/winning deep down the field on those long-developing plays. Having a receiving TE as a luxury compliment to 3 receivers that can beat tight coverage along with a RB/WR hybrid in #88 allows us to go into games feeling more confident that we won't be stymied by 2 Man Under shells/can gain positive yards in the pass game and not go 3 & out for multiple series on end.</p><p></p><p>This is why if Aaron can go vs Minny Sunday I feel we'll have a shot at getting some sweet revenge on them. Use Jimmy as a decoy since they have a strong safety unit/won't want to give up the middle of the field easily and actually have a game plan similar to the one that played out against CHI-quick hit 'em and when they get tired detonate a couple bombs on the outside...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pizzle, post: 786785, member: 12428"] On the GW TD to Cobb I initially thought that was vintage Rodgers holding onto the ball to manufacture the scramble drill big play. Then I watched the play over and over. The Bears were in a Cover 2 Man Robber defense, where Eddie Jackson jumped Cobb's initial over route and Cobb's defender replaced Jackson as the other free defender playing a safety role. Well, Cobb's initial defender basically just fronted Allison's similar complimentary over route, which allowed Cobb to pivot, reverse field and simultaneously snag a perfectly placed ball just beyond the outstretched hands of Jackson. The Bears had no one in the middle of the field due to Adams' deep route causing the FS to play him over the top and the rest is history. The point of bringing it up is that the 2 safety shell has been the preferred defensive secondary alignment for years now to attempt to slow down the Packer offense under Rodgers. The play call and execution to me said that GB's offensive minds going into this year have some ideas on how to effectively beat those looks. Those ideas are predicated on Aaron understanding that holding onto the ball as long as possible isn't always the best way to go-it's figuring out what the defense is doing and then attacking as quick as possible, only extending the play as necessary. To your points, I think that by letting Jordy go, the process of the "meeting" might have already happened this off-season. I think more combo routes are coming this season than in the past, as well as designed man-coverage beaters. I also think that the emphasis on pass catchers getting open quicker was apart of that meeting, not just Aaron getting rid of it quicker. Essentially, by replacing Jordy with Jimmy, we got a bigger, more versatile decoy than what #87 had became. Adams already overtook #18 and #87 as the #1 WR option last year. But now, the offense will utilize Cobb's abilities to beat coverage faster than Jordy on a more consistent basis. As great as Aaron and Jordy's connection was, as of late I noticed that it felt like Aaron would slightly attempt to force Jordy the ball instead of getting rid of the ball on-schedule to whomever was open. As you stated, in the 2nd half of the Bears game #12 was getting rid of it fast and with conviction outside of a couple throws. I think that Aaron will still have attempts at shot plays like the G-Mo TD. But not only do I agree that being more on-schedule (even if that simply means letting #12 go no-huddle in 11 personnel earlier in the game) will help the offense be more unstoppable but I believe that is a point of emphasis overall this season. That's why the Packers were okay with not keeping Nelson/made sure to grab Graham and Lewis. They wanted more diversity (ability to play 12 personnel with a good blocking TE/have some 13 personnel looks) while maintaining their offensive style, just pairing it down to be faster developing. Nelson is still a savvy vet WR but he was having trouble beating press coverage/winning deep down the field on those long-developing plays. Having a receiving TE as a luxury compliment to 3 receivers that can beat tight coverage along with a RB/WR hybrid in #88 allows us to go into games feeling more confident that we won't be stymied by 2 Man Under shells/can gain positive yards in the pass game and not go 3 & out for multiple series on end. This is why if Aaron can go vs Minny Sunday I feel we'll have a shot at getting some sweet revenge on them. Use Jimmy as a decoy since they have a strong safety unit/won't want to give up the middle of the field easily and actually have a game plan similar to the one that played out against CHI-quick hit 'em and when they get tired detonate a couple bombs on the outside... [/QUOTE]
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