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<blockquote data-quote="sschind" data-source="post: 816171" data-attributes="member: 10247"><p>Gentlemen we can rebuild it. We have the technology.</p><p></p><p>That is the key. We have the technology to get the calls right. Even so they don't always, at least not in everyone's opinion, but they can and do make up for many errors as called (The Edleman muffed punt for example) New England benefited (rightly so) on a judgement call. It was ruled a fumble so it was automatically reviewed (all turnovers are) and it was rightly reversed. The Saints are stuck because PI calls or non calls as the case may be, are non-reviewable. Why is this so. I know people are worried that if we make any call reviewable it will slow down the game but I don't get it why a coach has to decide if they want to use a challenge on a close call or why, should a call not go their way, they can't contest an obvious wrong call later on. </p><p></p><p>My idea would be to make any challenge subject to a 10 yard delay of game penalty and loss of down in addition to the loss of a timeout. Actually I'd give them 1 free wrong challenge before assessing the penalty. IMO the potential loss of a timeout is not that important if the coach really thinks its a close call. If he knows he will lose 10 yards and a down he is going to be pretty sure about it. On defense if its wrong its a 10 yard penalty and an automatic first down. </p><p></p><p>Make every play reviewable that way when Sean Payton sees that obvious PI he can throw the flag and ask the officials to take a look. If they don't agree 10 yard penalty and loss of down. I also think there should be a replay official in the booth who has the power to call down, upon seeing a replay, if he thinks something was missed and have it reviewed.</p><p></p><p>I know it sucks for the Saints but someone somewhere posted four stills, 1 a delay of game, 1 a facemask, and two other calls that the Saints got away with so I'm not going to say the Saints were robbed but that was a bad call and there should be some way of rectifying it. </p><p></p><p>Take this scenario.</p><p></p><p>The Chiefs are punting the ball. The ball grazes Julian Edleman's thumb and the Chiefs fall on the ball at the 30. The refs say no it didn't touch him and give the Patriots the ball where it was downed. Andy Reid has used his 3 challenges (if you get 2 right you get a 3rd if I am not mistaken) the Chiefs are screwed. It is really a fumble and there is no way they can get the mistake corrected because since it was not ruled a fumble on the field it isn't automatically reviewed. IMO this is not right. Lets say he gets to challenge. The replay shows it did touch Edleman and its Chiefs ball. All is right with the world (for one play at least) Now lets say he was wrong and it didn't touch Edleman he loses a timeout and the Patriots get another 10 yards added to the spot where it was downed so its 1st and 10 from the 40.</p><p></p><p>They have the technology to get calls right its a shame its not available on every play. I get that there is the potential to slow the game down but put in other ways to curb abuse. maybe after the 2nd or third call you get wrong its a 15 yard penalty. Maybe if you use 10 challenges in a game they take you out to the woodshed and spank your *** with a stick or maybe the opposing coach gets to kick you in the balls at midfield. I don't know. Make penalties for abusing it severe enough and coaches will think twice but in obvious situations they shouldn't be penalized for wanting to get the call right and deserving to get the call right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sschind, post: 816171, member: 10247"] Gentlemen we can rebuild it. We have the technology. That is the key. We have the technology to get the calls right. Even so they don't always, at least not in everyone's opinion, but they can and do make up for many errors as called (The Edleman muffed punt for example) New England benefited (rightly so) on a judgement call. It was ruled a fumble so it was automatically reviewed (all turnovers are) and it was rightly reversed. The Saints are stuck because PI calls or non calls as the case may be, are non-reviewable. Why is this so. I know people are worried that if we make any call reviewable it will slow down the game but I don't get it why a coach has to decide if they want to use a challenge on a close call or why, should a call not go their way, they can't contest an obvious wrong call later on. My idea would be to make any challenge subject to a 10 yard delay of game penalty and loss of down in addition to the loss of a timeout. Actually I'd give them 1 free wrong challenge before assessing the penalty. IMO the potential loss of a timeout is not that important if the coach really thinks its a close call. If he knows he will lose 10 yards and a down he is going to be pretty sure about it. On defense if its wrong its a 10 yard penalty and an automatic first down. Make every play reviewable that way when Sean Payton sees that obvious PI he can throw the flag and ask the officials to take a look. If they don't agree 10 yard penalty and loss of down. I also think there should be a replay official in the booth who has the power to call down, upon seeing a replay, if he thinks something was missed and have it reviewed. I know it sucks for the Saints but someone somewhere posted four stills, 1 a delay of game, 1 a facemask, and two other calls that the Saints got away with so I'm not going to say the Saints were robbed but that was a bad call and there should be some way of rectifying it. Take this scenario. The Chiefs are punting the ball. The ball grazes Julian Edleman's thumb and the Chiefs fall on the ball at the 30. The refs say no it didn't touch him and give the Patriots the ball where it was downed. Andy Reid has used his 3 challenges (if you get 2 right you get a 3rd if I am not mistaken) the Chiefs are screwed. It is really a fumble and there is no way they can get the mistake corrected because since it was not ruled a fumble on the field it isn't automatically reviewed. IMO this is not right. Lets say he gets to challenge. The replay shows it did touch Edleman and its Chiefs ball. All is right with the world (for one play at least) Now lets say he was wrong and it didn't touch Edleman he loses a timeout and the Patriots get another 10 yards added to the spot where it was downed so its 1st and 10 from the 40. They have the technology to get calls right its a shame its not available on every play. I get that there is the potential to slow the game down but put in other ways to curb abuse. maybe after the 2nd or third call you get wrong its a 15 yard penalty. Maybe if you use 10 challenges in a game they take you out to the woodshed and spank your *** with a stick or maybe the opposing coach gets to kick you in the balls at midfield. I don't know. Make penalties for abusing it severe enough and coaches will think twice but in obvious situations they shouldn't be penalized for wanting to get the call right and deserving to get the call right. [/QUOTE]
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