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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 655548" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>You have the penalty backwards and it's a big part of why trades are rare in the NFL.</p><p></p><p>Let's say we want to trade FOR a player. Let's say this player plays for the Chargers (just picked an AFC west at random. They have the smallest chance of not wanting to help a future opponent, since we just played them, not in the same conference, etc etc.)</p><p></p><p>The Player, Aaron Theadore Evanson (A TE. damn, I'm funny), has just signed a 4 year contract. For the safe of argument, let's pretend a 20 million signing bonus and 500,000 a year in base salary. That'd make the total deal worth 22 million. Obviously, this more than a little simplified, but 22/5 = 5.5 million a year. And that'd be his cap number each year. Pretty good. Certainly not going to bust the cap. In fact, this is part of the reasons for signing bonuses: you can spread the cap hit out over several years.</p><p></p><p>Now then, it comes draft time and with the Packers on the clock at #27, the Chargers see someone they just HAVE to have. They are smitten with this player and offer the Packers anyone for our number 1. We Pick A.T.E. The Chargers gulp, but they are willing to let him go, because the guy they want to draft is just that good in their eyes.</p><p></p><p>But now the crappy part (for the Chargers.) The immediately take an accelerated cap hit for the remaining signing bonus. So that perfectly fine 5.5 million cap number suddenly turns into 20 million for right now, this season. More than likely, the Chargers don't have the space and will go over the cap. So they either cannot make the trade or have to start cutting players to give them enough room to absorb the cap hit.</p><p></p><p>The Packer's hit in this situation would be 500,000/year. Just his base salary.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>The inverse is similar. Draft picks for players is pretty rare because draft picks were generally more valuable than players--rookies are cheap. They got more valuable with the new pay scale. Trading even a 3rd round pick is a bad "money ball" proposition. That 3rd round pick could turn into a start. He could also be a simple guy who fills a role, but he's only going to cost about 3 million total. About 600k per year. A pittance. And you've got him locked up for 4 years!</p><p></p><p>The player you traded for likely has only 1 year left on his deal. Other things happen, of course. If he's worth a 3rd rounder, he's pretty good. He's going to want a new deal--that's probably why you were able to get him in the first place. His old team didn't want to give him a new deal. So now you've traded away a 3rd round pick <strong>and then</strong> you probably have to give him a 10-20 million signing bonus and a contract that averages 5-8 million a year in total cap cost.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 655548, member: 4199"] You have the penalty backwards and it's a big part of why trades are rare in the NFL. Let's say we want to trade FOR a player. Let's say this player plays for the Chargers (just picked an AFC west at random. They have the smallest chance of not wanting to help a future opponent, since we just played them, not in the same conference, etc etc.) The Player, Aaron Theadore Evanson (A TE. damn, I'm funny), has just signed a 4 year contract. For the safe of argument, let's pretend a 20 million signing bonus and 500,000 a year in base salary. That'd make the total deal worth 22 million. Obviously, this more than a little simplified, but 22/5 = 5.5 million a year. And that'd be his cap number each year. Pretty good. Certainly not going to bust the cap. In fact, this is part of the reasons for signing bonuses: you can spread the cap hit out over several years. Now then, it comes draft time and with the Packers on the clock at #27, the Chargers see someone they just HAVE to have. They are smitten with this player and offer the Packers anyone for our number 1. We Pick A.T.E. The Chargers gulp, but they are willing to let him go, because the guy they want to draft is just that good in their eyes. But now the crappy part (for the Chargers.) The immediately take an accelerated cap hit for the remaining signing bonus. So that perfectly fine 5.5 million cap number suddenly turns into 20 million for right now, this season. More than likely, the Chargers don't have the space and will go over the cap. So they either cannot make the trade or have to start cutting players to give them enough room to absorb the cap hit. The Packer's hit in this situation would be 500,000/year. Just his base salary. ----- The inverse is similar. Draft picks for players is pretty rare because draft picks were generally more valuable than players--rookies are cheap. They got more valuable with the new pay scale. Trading even a 3rd round pick is a bad "money ball" proposition. That 3rd round pick could turn into a start. He could also be a simple guy who fills a role, but he's only going to cost about 3 million total. About 600k per year. A pittance. And you've got him locked up for 4 years! The player you traded for likely has only 1 year left on his deal. Other things happen, of course. If he's worth a 3rd rounder, he's pretty good. He's going to want a new deal--that's probably why you were able to get him in the first place. His old team didn't want to give him a new deal. So now you've traded away a 3rd round pick [B]and then[/B] you probably have to give him a 10-20 million signing bonus and a contract that averages 5-8 million a year in total cap cost. [/QUOTE]
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