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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 783266"><p>There's a secondary problem with a Matthews / Gilbert combination, which I characterized with a <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/eek.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" />. Or was it a <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/roflmao.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":roflmao:" title="ROFLMAO :roflmao:" data-shortname=":roflmao:" />?</p><p></p><p>Matthews did not show himself to be more than a serviceable ILB. If necessity required replacing the Martinez/Matthews combo with a Matthews/Gilbert combo you've probably weakened two positions in the 3-down scheme of things.</p><p></p><p>McCarron did a breakdown of Ahmad Thomas' play in the Titans game where he showed several impressive, physical plays. I'm not finding that link now but somebody else might.</p><p></p><p>The problem with viewing Thomas as the #3 is that he's in the Burks hybrid mold, a converted safety, long on speed and short on size for an ILB. I can see him as the backup to Burks, but the idea of a Burks/Thomas combo in the event of a Martinez injury presents issues in base and short yardage. Thomas plays physical, but as we discussed before these hybrid guys win on read-and-react not stack-and-shed. Having two hybrid guys with no NFL game experience out there playing the run should be viewed as problematic.</p><p></p><p>I don't think Martini being the first guy off the bench in preseason is necessarily his current position on the depth chart. He ran a 4.81 at his Pro Day and he looks it on the field. He's out there calling signals. He's closer to standard ILB size at 232 lbs., maybe bigger since his Pro Day. Martini looks to be an exploratory exercise to figure out if he can back up Martinez. Can he be a Ryan reasonable facimile in the run game? Martinez-Martini. It all fits, right? <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So far this plan, if that is the plan, does not look promising. I have no idea what plan B they could have in mind to back up Martinez other than to roll the dice with a Burks/Thomas combo. Maybe it is Biegel. He's smart. They move him around. But if that was plan B you'd think he'd be getting some snaps there by now.</p><p></p><p>Maybe they punt and sign Bowman after all. Maybe he's waiting for some desperation money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 783266"] There's a secondary problem with a Matthews / Gilbert combination, which I characterized with a :eek:. Or was it a :roflmao:? Matthews did not show himself to be more than a serviceable ILB. If necessity required replacing the Martinez/Matthews combo with a Matthews/Gilbert combo you've probably weakened two positions in the 3-down scheme of things. McCarron did a breakdown of Ahmad Thomas' play in the Titans game where he showed several impressive, physical plays. I'm not finding that link now but somebody else might. The problem with viewing Thomas as the #3 is that he's in the Burks hybrid mold, a converted safety, long on speed and short on size for an ILB. I can see him as the backup to Burks, but the idea of a Burks/Thomas combo in the event of a Martinez injury presents issues in base and short yardage. Thomas plays physical, but as we discussed before these hybrid guys win on read-and-react not stack-and-shed. Having two hybrid guys with no NFL game experience out there playing the run should be viewed as problematic. I don't think Martini being the first guy off the bench in preseason is necessarily his current position on the depth chart. He ran a 4.81 at his Pro Day and he looks it on the field. He's out there calling signals. He's closer to standard ILB size at 232 lbs., maybe bigger since his Pro Day. Martini looks to be an exploratory exercise to figure out if he can back up Martinez. Can he be a Ryan reasonable facimile in the run game? Martinez-Martini. It all fits, right? ;) So far this plan, if that is the plan, does not look promising. I have no idea what plan B they could have in mind to back up Martinez other than to roll the dice with a Burks/Thomas combo. Maybe it is Biegel. He's smart. They move him around. But if that was plan B you'd think he'd be getting some snaps there by now. Maybe they punt and sign Bowman after all. Maybe he's waiting for some desperation money. [/QUOTE]
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