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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 869738"><p>Faster is always better, all things being equal, but there are different kinds of speed, some not refleted in a 40 time. And the other things that go into making a good receiver, even as a deep threat, are not equal.</p><p></p><p>A guy who runs 4.30 is bound to be fast all along the acceleration curve. In contrast, Nelson ran a 4.51. He ran a 10.68 3A state championship 100 meters in high school as well as championships at 200 meters, 400 meters and long jump.</p><p></p><p>100 meter runners typically reach peak speed at 50 meters with some variance. A short strider typically gets there earlier, a long strider later. In our years of watching Nelson in his prime, before the ACL, you would not see DBs closing on him after he pulled down a deep sideline or post. That's called long speed from a long strider where peak acceleration is further along the curve and is not fully reflected in a 40 time.</p><p></p><p>Conversely, the guy who might best fit your profile among the top prospects is probably Aiyuk, though he has slot/perimeter versatility. He's very quick, accelerating into speed in a jiffy, so you wouldn't think he ran only 4.5 if all you saw were his breakaway short routes into YAC. But if you watch some of his longer plays, where he's in stride around 50 yards or so, you will see DBs closing the gap. His speed peak is earlier in the curve vs. a guy like Nelson. So there's different kinds of speed.</p><p></p><p>You'll often hear people talk about field speed vs. track speed. You'll hear some ex-scouts and GMs say they rely on the tape and don't pay much attention to a Combine 40 time.</p><p></p><p>There are a few things that go into field speed.</p><p></p><p>If somebody said a Nelson or an Aiyuk has better field speed than their 40 time, they are probably noticing exceptional speed at one point in the acceleration curve or the other. </p><p></p><p>Then there's the matter how guys carry their pads. An NFL WR's helmet and pads might run around 10 pounds give or take. Some guys may be less inhibited by that than others.</p><p></p><p>Then there are things good receivers can do to substitue for speed. Selling a move at the top of the route, making the catch, and getting some YAC out of separation in a short route is more than one play. It sets up other things, like a double move into a deep route that gets the corner leaning the wrong way or flat footed as he knows to guard against the thing that fooled him previously.</p><p></p><p>Then you have receivers without blazing 40 times who are prized for their size, vertical and ability to high point the ball over what is almost universally shorter corners. Speed and separation is compensated for.</p><p></p><p>Some guys have a better knack for finding the running lane or to elude a tackler after a catch in space which translates to yards beyond the speed factor.</p><p></p><p>It comes down to the whole package. Speed is where the player can find it and that is not necessarily on a stop watch. Where he finds it, and a scheme and role where it is maximized, is what is about. Good coaches make adjustments to maximize the strenghts of the players at his disposal. I think LaFleur is a good coach.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 869738"] Faster is always better, all things being equal, but there are different kinds of speed, some not refleted in a 40 time. And the other things that go into making a good receiver, even as a deep threat, are not equal. A guy who runs 4.30 is bound to be fast all along the acceleration curve. In contrast, Nelson ran a 4.51. He ran a 10.68 3A state championship 100 meters in high school as well as championships at 200 meters, 400 meters and long jump. 100 meter runners typically reach peak speed at 50 meters with some variance. A short strider typically gets there earlier, a long strider later. In our years of watching Nelson in his prime, before the ACL, you would not see DBs closing on him after he pulled down a deep sideline or post. That's called long speed from a long strider where peak acceleration is further along the curve and is not fully reflected in a 40 time. Conversely, the guy who might best fit your profile among the top prospects is probably Aiyuk, though he has slot/perimeter versatility. He's very quick, accelerating into speed in a jiffy, so you wouldn't think he ran only 4.5 if all you saw were his breakaway short routes into YAC. But if you watch some of his longer plays, where he's in stride around 50 yards or so, you will see DBs closing the gap. His speed peak is earlier in the curve vs. a guy like Nelson. So there's different kinds of speed. You'll often hear people talk about field speed vs. track speed. You'll hear some ex-scouts and GMs say they rely on the tape and don't pay much attention to a Combine 40 time. There are a few things that go into field speed. If somebody said a Nelson or an Aiyuk has better field speed than their 40 time, they are probably noticing exceptional speed at one point in the acceleration curve or the other. Then there's the matter how guys carry their pads. An NFL WR's helmet and pads might run around 10 pounds give or take. Some guys may be less inhibited by that than others. Then there are things good receivers can do to substitue for speed. Selling a move at the top of the route, making the catch, and getting some YAC out of separation in a short route is more than one play. It sets up other things, like a double move into a deep route that gets the corner leaning the wrong way or flat footed as he knows to guard against the thing that fooled him previously. Then you have receivers without blazing 40 times who are prized for their size, vertical and ability to high point the ball over what is almost universally shorter corners. Speed and separation is compensated for. Some guys have a better knack for finding the running lane or to elude a tackler after a catch in space which translates to yards beyond the speed factor. It comes down to the whole package. Speed is where the player can find it and that is not necessarily on a stop watch. Where he finds it, and a scheme and role where it is maximized, is what is about. Good coaches make adjustments to maximize the strenghts of the players at his disposal. I think LaFleur is a good coach. [/QUOTE]
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