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Packers are hoping they found another undrafted NFL free agent gem in Cody Heiman
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<blockquote data-quote="Half Empty" data-source="post: 724745" data-attributes="member: 10288"><p>Not sure if this is in agreement with or a rebuttal of my previous post. By paragraph/sentence:</p><p></p><p>1. The fact that there was a lack of definition of 'gem' was my original point. My own definition is basically looking at a someone, thinking 'now that guy can really play', and THEN realizing he's an UDFA.</p><p></p><p>2. Tied to #1, in that I don't agree that a gem is one who can fill a hole as a starter. I would agree that it's all gravy for TT, or anyone else, to find a pro bowl performer in an UDFA, but that wasn't the issue - finding a gem was. </p><p></p><p>3. EDS (now just Evan Smith) started every game for the Pack in 2013, then started every game he played for the Bucs. Prior to 2013, he started nine game over four years for the Pack, and after 2014 has started seven over two years for the Bucs, where he is now a backup center. His big contract pays him $2 mil/year less than Tretter, who started all of 10 games for the Pack. IMO, that's pretty much the definition of a stopgap.</p><p></p><p>4/5/6. Agree. As I and WIMM noted those two were not signed by the Pack as UDFA. If you're going to identify someone as an UDFA gem, they first have to be an UDFA. If they once were such, and you're going to label them that way throughout their career, then if Shields signed with a team willing to take the chance, would their GM get credit for an UDFA gem? TT deserved credit for signing Tramon and Ryan, just not as UDFA gems.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Half Empty, post: 724745, member: 10288"] Not sure if this is in agreement with or a rebuttal of my previous post. By paragraph/sentence: 1. The fact that there was a lack of definition of 'gem' was my original point. My own definition is basically looking at a someone, thinking 'now that guy can really play', and THEN realizing he's an UDFA. 2. Tied to #1, in that I don't agree that a gem is one who can fill a hole as a starter. I would agree that it's all gravy for TT, or anyone else, to find a pro bowl performer in an UDFA, but that wasn't the issue - finding a gem was. 3. EDS (now just Evan Smith) started every game for the Pack in 2013, then started every game he played for the Bucs. Prior to 2013, he started nine game over four years for the Pack, and after 2014 has started seven over two years for the Bucs, where he is now a backup center. His big contract pays him $2 mil/year less than Tretter, who started all of 10 games for the Pack. IMO, that's pretty much the definition of a stopgap. 4/5/6. Agree. As I and WIMM noted those two were not signed by the Pack as UDFA. If you're going to identify someone as an UDFA gem, they first have to be an UDFA. If they once were such, and you're going to label them that way throughout their career, then if Shields signed with a team willing to take the chance, would their GM get credit for an UDFA gem? TT deserved credit for signing Tramon and Ryan, just not as UDFA gems. [/QUOTE]
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