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Packers 1st round selection, #12 overall: Rashan Gary, DE
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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 882523" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>The problem is that these expectations are too high. Just look at the guys they passed over for Gary.</p><p></p><p>#13-- Christian Wilkins, MIA: Played about 65% of the snaps, had a couple sacks; he was fine, but nothing special as a rookie.</p><p>#14-- Chris Lindstrom, ATL: Missed most of the season with an injury; was apparently solid when he returned in December.</p><p>#15-- Dwayne Haskins, WAS: Terrible, but kind of irrelevant because he's a QB.</p><p>#16-- Brian Burns, CAR: Had a great start to his season, and then really slowed down. Still a good first year overall. Zero sacks and zero QB hits so far in 2020.</p><p>#17-- Dexter Lawrence, NYG: Play about 63% of snaps; was good as a rookie, but mostly as a run stuffer, which isn't all that valuable. </p><p>#18-- Garrett Bradbury, MIN: Started and sucked as a rookie. </p><p>#19-- Jeffery Simmons, TEN: He looked really good down the stretch for TEN; they got him later because he was coming off a torn ACL. </p><p>#20-- Noah Fant, DEN: 40/562/3 as a rookie-- not an asset as a blocker.</p><p></p><p>Are you seeing the point? Very few of these guys made significant impacts immediately. And literally zero of them came anywhere close to being one of the best players at their position in year one. Some of them were more immediately impactful than Gary out of the gate. But we're not talking about huge margins here. </p><p></p><p>I can only think of one player from that entire draft that meets the standard you're setting for expectations at #12, and that's Nick Bosa who went #2 overall.</p><p></p><p>Now we don't know if Gary was the best pick or a good pick yet. And we won't know for a while yet. But while you're right that he has not yet proven to be a cornerstone of the defense, he also hasn't proven to be a bust. All he's proven so far is that he's improved quite a bit from year one to year two. We will see how much that holds up with time.</p><p></p><p>This all ultimately boils down to what we said a year ago-- the guys in the 2019 draft who were both blue chip talents AND developed with high floors (e.g. Bosa, Williams, Bush, Hockenson, Oliver) were gone by their pick. They had some high floor options (e.g. Wilkinson and Lawrence) and some high ceiling options (e.g. Gary, Burns). They chose ceiling and went to work developing one of the most genuine freakshows that the draft has produced in a long time. I'm fine with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 882523, member: 12283"] The problem is that these expectations are too high. Just look at the guys they passed over for Gary. #13-- Christian Wilkins, MIA: Played about 65% of the snaps, had a couple sacks; he was fine, but nothing special as a rookie. #14-- Chris Lindstrom, ATL: Missed most of the season with an injury; was apparently solid when he returned in December. #15-- Dwayne Haskins, WAS: Terrible, but kind of irrelevant because he's a QB. #16-- Brian Burns, CAR: Had a great start to his season, and then really slowed down. Still a good first year overall. Zero sacks and zero QB hits so far in 2020. #17-- Dexter Lawrence, NYG: Play about 63% of snaps; was good as a rookie, but mostly as a run stuffer, which isn't all that valuable. #18-- Garrett Bradbury, MIN: Started and sucked as a rookie. #19-- Jeffery Simmons, TEN: He looked really good down the stretch for TEN; they got him later because he was coming off a torn ACL. #20-- Noah Fant, DEN: 40/562/3 as a rookie-- not an asset as a blocker. Are you seeing the point? Very few of these guys made significant impacts immediately. And literally zero of them came anywhere close to being one of the best players at their position in year one. Some of them were more immediately impactful than Gary out of the gate. But we're not talking about huge margins here. I can only think of one player from that entire draft that meets the standard you're setting for expectations at #12, and that's Nick Bosa who went #2 overall. Now we don't know if Gary was the best pick or a good pick yet. And we won't know for a while yet. But while you're right that he has not yet proven to be a cornerstone of the defense, he also hasn't proven to be a bust. All he's proven so far is that he's improved quite a bit from year one to year two. We will see how much that holds up with time. This all ultimately boils down to what we said a year ago-- the guys in the 2019 draft who were both blue chip talents AND developed with high floors (e.g. Bosa, Williams, Bush, Hockenson, Oliver) were gone by their pick. They had some high floor options (e.g. Wilkinson and Lawrence) and some high ceiling options (e.g. Gary, Burns). They chose ceiling and went to work developing one of the most genuine freakshows that the draft has produced in a long time. I'm fine with it. [/QUOTE]
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