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<blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1036900" data-attributes="member: 18006"><p>Oh, I don't think anyone in the league is sleeping on the Bears at this point - least of all, their biggest rival, 200 miles up I-94/I-43. Believeme, we hear ya coming.</p><p></p><p>We may make a few remarks about "same ol' Bears" (and we've seen your team go flaccid when the action starts so many times that there's a basis for that), but we know very well that Chicago is going to be a much better team than they have been for quite a few years.</p><p></p><p>We're just waaay short of convinced that Wiliams is going to be your Moses, the hero your team needs to overcome the mediocre coaching and mangement decisions. Because even if you have the 5 best WRs in the NFL, someone still needs to deliver the ball to them.</p><p></p><p>Which brings us to Williams.</p><p></p><p>The entire future of your team over the next 4-8 years depends on him. He may deliver, he may not, we have no way of knowing which way he'll go. He has some excellent qualities, but some red flags.</p><p></p><p>His attitude is the first thing that jumps out at me, and it ain't a positive clue. Together with his dad, he tried hard to circumvent the NFL collective bargaining agreement by trying to find some way to change the rules and give him an actual ownership stake in the <em>franchise itself</em>. When that went nowhere, he and Dad screened potential agents on the basis of what ideas they had on how to do an end-run around the contract structures for rookies, and find some sort of backdoor where he'd get more money that the rules allowed.</p><p></p><p>He blew off the combine, refusing to throw or do any physical tests, saying that teams already had all the game film they needed to see how great he is. Teams who interviewed him said that he approached the meetings with a lackadaisical nonchalance, "as though it was a real estate open house and he was looking for a property he liked." Some said it seemed obvious that he wasn't taking the interviews seriously because he knew he was already going #1 anyway.</p><p></p><p>The month before the draft, one of his future Chicago teammates were publicy warning him his attitude needed an upgrade. Jaylon Johnson said, "You just humble your stuff coming into the building. You can’t bring that Hollywood stuff into the building, especially with guys who played this game at a high level for consecutive years in the league. What you did in college, the Hollywood, it’s like 'Nah, you gotta prove yourself."</p><p></p><p>I don't think I've ever seen a veteran player say something like that about an incoming rookie, and it's not a good look.</p><p></p><p>I've seen some people already comparing him to Brett Favre, which is not a completely outrageous thing to say - he has the bazooka arm and the gunslinger mentality, but he has so far not shown that he can keep a cool head under pressure, and is quick to scratch the called play and improvise, going for a potential big play rather than take the sure thing for shorter yardag. His release time is not as bad as Fields' but still slow at 3.31 seconds. If he doesn't learn how to get past those things (if Chicago's coaching staff, which has never developed an elite QB, can't teach him patience and displine), he's going to have a short career with 3 or 4 teams.</p><p></p><p>Additonally, his footwork is inconsistent and often just plain awful, and his pocket discipline depends on whatever pops into his head on any given play. Your team's future depends on him developing his head talent to the same level as his arm talent.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad you're pumped about your team, and you deserve to be. You've earned that right. But there's nothing anyone can say about Caleb that wasn't also said about Ryan Leaf, Johnny Manziel, JaMarcus Russel... Carson Palmer... Alex Smith.... Rick Mirer, Tim Couch... Akili Smith, Vince Young, Byron Leftwich... Mark Sanchez... Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Blake Bortals, Ryan Tannehil... RG III... not all #1 or #2 picks, but they all went Top 10 and were touted as the saviors of their franchise.</p><p></p><p>In the 30 years between 1993 and 2023, 39 quarterbacks have gone Top 10, projected future franchise QBs. Over half of them were busts. And with Caleb's attitude problems, ego, and lack of discipline, I can see an awful lot of things that can easily go wrong.</p><p></p><p>So... yeah; I'm happy for you guys that you have something to be xcited about. But the Magic 8-Ball says, "whoa, maybe not so fast here... "</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thirteen Below, post: 1036900, member: 18006"] Oh, I don't think anyone in the league is sleeping on the Bears at this point - least of all, their biggest rival, 200 miles up I-94/I-43. Believeme, we hear ya coming. We may make a few remarks about "same ol' Bears" (and we've seen your team go flaccid when the action starts so many times that there's a basis for that), but we know very well that Chicago is going to be a much better team than they have been for quite a few years. We're just waaay short of convinced that Wiliams is going to be your Moses, the hero your team needs to overcome the mediocre coaching and mangement decisions. Because even if you have the 5 best WRs in the NFL, someone still needs to deliver the ball to them. Which brings us to Williams. The entire future of your team over the next 4-8 years depends on him. He may deliver, he may not, we have no way of knowing which way he'll go. He has some excellent qualities, but some red flags. His attitude is the first thing that jumps out at me, and it ain't a positive clue. Together with his dad, he tried hard to circumvent the NFL collective bargaining agreement by trying to find some way to change the rules and give him an actual ownership stake in the [I]franchise itself[/I]. When that went nowhere, he and Dad screened potential agents on the basis of what ideas they had on how to do an end-run around the contract structures for rookies, and find some sort of backdoor where he'd get more money that the rules allowed. He blew off the combine, refusing to throw or do any physical tests, saying that teams already had all the game film they needed to see how great he is. Teams who interviewed him said that he approached the meetings with a lackadaisical nonchalance, "as though it was a real estate open house and he was looking for a property he liked." Some said it seemed obvious that he wasn't taking the interviews seriously because he knew he was already going #1 anyway. The month before the draft, one of his future Chicago teammates were publicy warning him his attitude needed an upgrade. Jaylon Johnson said, "You just humble your stuff coming into the building. You can’t bring that Hollywood stuff into the building, especially with guys who played this game at a high level for consecutive years in the league. What you did in college, the Hollywood, it’s like 'Nah, you gotta prove yourself." I don't think I've ever seen a veteran player say something like that about an incoming rookie, and it's not a good look. I've seen some people already comparing him to Brett Favre, which is not a completely outrageous thing to say - he has the bazooka arm and the gunslinger mentality, but he has so far not shown that he can keep a cool head under pressure, and is quick to scratch the called play and improvise, going for a potential big play rather than take the sure thing for shorter yardag. His release time is not as bad as Fields' but still slow at 3.31 seconds. If he doesn't learn how to get past those things (if Chicago's coaching staff, which has never developed an elite QB, can't teach him patience and displine), he's going to have a short career with 3 or 4 teams. Additonally, his footwork is inconsistent and often just plain awful, and his pocket discipline depends on whatever pops into his head on any given play. Your team's future depends on him developing his head talent to the same level as his arm talent. I'm glad you're pumped about your team, and you deserve to be. You've earned that right. But there's nothing anyone can say about Caleb that wasn't also said about Ryan Leaf, Johnny Manziel, JaMarcus Russel... Carson Palmer... Alex Smith.... Rick Mirer, Tim Couch... Akili Smith, Vince Young, Byron Leftwich... Mark Sanchez... Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Blake Bortals, Ryan Tannehil... RG III... not all #1 or #2 picks, but they all went Top 10 and were touted as the saviors of their franchise. In the 30 years between 1993 and 2023, 39 quarterbacks have gone Top 10, projected future franchise QBs. Over half of them were busts. And with Caleb's attitude problems, ego, and lack of discipline, I can see an awful lot of things that can easily go wrong. So... yeah; I'm happy for you guys that you have something to be xcited about. But the Magic 8-Ball says, "whoa, maybe not so fast here... " [/QUOTE]
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