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Message: <blockquote data-quote="13 Times Champs" data-source="post: 421388" data-attributes="member: 4925">You haven't convinced me I misread your post. There's so much I disagree with in your latest verbous response. I absolutely don't agree that the defense is built on the turnover. That is a defense of the current state of affairs. The Packers had a solid defense all the way around last year. Any defense will be a solid one only if it is capable in all aspects of the game well and this defense is not. It isn't unrealistic to expect a solid defense this year based on the loss of only two players when we had so many players missing on defense last year. The viewer and the stats prove the Packer offense is prolific while the defense is pourous. Picking apart the offense to prove a nebulous point escapes me. Pickett missed two games and Collins an entire season. Yes we have missed Collins but you can't build an argument for a season on his absence. And the Pass rush? You haven't come close to addressing this liability? How will Capers stop those third down plays in the playoffs when he has stated he has repeatedly placed emphasis on this aspect during the season and is baffeled by the gaffes? I am also done.</blockquote>

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