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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patriotplayer90" data-source="post: 791431" data-attributes="member: 11307">At the same time, you can look at those numbers and make a case that he's among the best ever, yet some newbies are coming into the league with no experience and making his current production look like child's play.  If you think that McCarthy is a good coach,I don't know what to tell you.  That's like saying that former coaches from the Browns are actually great coaches , but couldn't win because they had scrubs at QB instead of the greatest QB of all time.  Of course any offense and team will look completely different with the most talented QB ever.  You judge the coach by the way they handle things without him, and it's been terrible.  If he were a winning coach, he'd at least be a .500 coach without Rodgers IMO.  But he hasn't been close.</blockquote>

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