Missing Person Report Nick Perry

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Nick Perry age 28 was last seen near Lambeau Field sometime around August 10th. He was last seen wearing a Packer Jersey with his name on it.

If anyone has information please contact one Brian Gutekunst at 1265 Lombardi Ave




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Pack paid him and now he vanished.
 

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Perry was last seen at a local Green Bay bank pushing a wheel barrel full of money out the door. An Eye witness saw him slip and hurt his knee as he tried to exit.

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Sucks that we have to deal with this guy and his salary at least 1 more season smh. Maybe Gute can find some sucker to give us a 4th for him... and take on his salary. I hope they Never draft USC linebackers again.
 

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I remember when Perry was drafted the rap on him is that he wasn't a true OLB and that he would be better suited as an edge rusher in a 4-3. But you know, looking back at the 2012 and the guys drafted after Perry, TBH there wasn't much there on the defensive side to be impressed by. The two standouts were Harrison Smith drafted right after Perry, and the absolute gem of the draft, Bobby Wagner drafted #47 by the Seahawks. Can you imagine if the Packers had drafted Wagner. . . .?
 

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Sucks that we have to deal with this guy and his salary at least 1 more season smh. Maybe Gute can find some sucker to give us a 4th for him... and take on his salary. I hope they Never draft USC linebackers again.

Even if someone else was willing to pay double digits for him, trading him still nets the Pack an 11+ cap hit, so your first sentence continues to be operative.
 

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Even if someone else was willing to pay double digits for him, trading him still nets the Pack an 11+ cap hit, so your first sentence continues to be operative.
Spot on and IMO one of the worst things about the NFL right now, guaranteed money. I would be fine with players earning incentive bonuses, but all this fricking "no matter how little you contribute to the team, you get paid" is just insane. I love the Cap system to keep small market teams competitive, so the "failed" contracts effect everyone equally in that regard, it just sucks that you have to keep a guy because his Cap hit is so high, it doesn't make any sense to cut or trade him.
 

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Is his salary in his final year guaranteed?

As far as "guaranteed to Perry", $18,500,000 signing bonus and $18,500,000 guaranteed salary.

The Packers are currently carrying a future dead cap hit of $11,100,000 for Perry. They could cut him, but that still counts against the cap. 2020 that goes down to $7,400,000 and in 2021 $3,700,000.

So we are probably stuck with him for 2 more seasons.
 

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Was Gute the man in change of these contracts before?

Highly doubt it. From 2012-2015 Gute was director of College Scouting. From 2016-2017, Director of Player Personnel.

Prior to Gute, I would say that it was TT's job. He and Ball probably worked out most of the details of player contracts.
 
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Where's he been, lo these many years?

First, it was acclimating to playing standing up under the Capers constraints of edge and pocket contain with eyes up. That took quite a while. Freelancing or dip and rip to the back of the pocket was prohibited; you'd see it once or twice per year so you know he could do it. Releasing the hounds was pretty deep down in the Capers playbook. Opening up opportunities with line stunts were hard to find. Instead, pocket contain while not balling up blitzer lanes or coming in behind a stepping up QB was the predictable order of the day.

Throughout, it's been a litany of injury, playing injured, injured again, playing injured again, rise, repeat, rinse again, repeat again.

He was healthy enough long enough in 2016 to bull rush and defend the run on his way to a fat contract. Is this a matter of tanking after getting the big bucks? I don't think so. The guy is just highly injury prone. To his credit, he's been willing to play through those injuries.

You have to ask at what p0int do you say the guy will never stay healthy while considering to what extent the cumulative affect of the injuries has had a permanent affect. Tough call given $3.6 mil in cap saving next year doesn't buy much in the way of a 3-4 OLB.
 
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Highly doubt it. From 2012-2015 Gute was director of College Scouting. From 2016-2017, Director of Player Personnel.

Prior to Gute, I would say that it was TT's job. He and Ball probably worked out most of the details of player contracts.

Perhaps this is where the real problem lies. I keep reading on how the Pats restructure Brady's contract to keep him happy and yet manage the Cap hits enough to keep the resoter ticking, but we seem to hand out guaranteed money over the counter.
 

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Sucks that we have to deal with this guy and his salary at least 1 more season smh. Maybe Gute can find some sucker to give us a 4th for him... and take on his salary. I hope they Never draft USC linebackers again.

Im sure he'll show up next year.
 

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As far as "guaranteed to Perry", $18,500,000 signing bonus and $18,500,000 guaranteed salary.

The Packers are currently carrying a future dead cap hit of $11,100,000 for Perry. They could cut him, but that still counts against the cap. 2020 that goes down to $7,400,000 and in 2021 $3,700,000.

So we are probably stuck with him for 2 more seasons.
if we cut him early enough I think we actually see a savings for next year of about 3-4 million. There's a cap acceleration, but we save his salary. Without an extremely strong finish by him, I would not be surprised at all to see him cut. Yes, I know we don't have a replacement, but how hard is it to replace someone on a training table.
 

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Where's he been, lo these many years?

First, it was acclimating to playing standing up under the Capers constraints of edge and pocket contain with eyes up. That took quite a while. Freelancing or dip and rip to the back of the pocket was prohibited; you'd see it once or twice per year so you know he could do it. Releasing the hounds was pretty deep down in the Capers playbook. Opening up opportunities with line stunts were hard to find. Instead, pocket contain while not balling up blitzer lanes or coming in behind a stepping up QB was the predictable order of the day.

Throughout, it's been a litany of injury, playing injured, injured again, playing injured again, rise, repeat, rinse again, repeat again.

He was healthy enough long enough in 2016 to bull rush and defend the run on his way to a fat contract. Is this a matter of tanking after getting the big bucks? I don't think so. The guy is just highly injury prone. To his credit, he's been willing to play through those injuries.

You have to ask at what p0int do you say the guy will never stay healthy while considering to what extent the cumulative affect of the injuries has had a permanent affect. Tough call given $3.6 mil in cap saving next year doesn't buy much in the way of a 3-4 OLB.
I wish I could give this 2 ratings. Informative for the first half... and agree with the second.
 

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Perhaps this is where the real problem lies. I keep reading on how the Pats restructure Brady's contract to keep him happy and yet manage the Cap hits enough to keep the resoter ticking, but we seem to hand out guaranteed money over the counter.
when you look at guarantees other edge guys about his caliber (when healthy of course) got, 18 million was less than half of those other guys. his injury concerns were built into the contract more or less. We could have really "won" on that contract or lose some. We lost some. It happens. But other guys were getting 40-50-60 million dollar guarantees at a similar position for similar production that year.
 

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Perhaps this is where the real problem lies. I keep reading on how the Pats restructure Brady's contract to keep him happy and yet manage the Cap hits enough to keep the resoter ticking, but we seem to hand out guaranteed money over the counter.
neither half of that is really all that accurate. Brady has not been underpaid nor do the Packers guarantee more contracts than anyone else.
 

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if we cut him early enough I think we actually see a savings for next year of about 3-4 million. There's a cap acceleration, but we save his salary. Without an extremely strong finish by him, I would not be surprised at all to see him cut. Yes, I know we don't have a replacement, but how hard is it to replace someone on a training table.
I was going to say something similar.
 

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i guess if i would read the thread thru before responding, i'd see that someone already made my points LOL
 

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Perhaps this is where the real problem lies. I keep reading on how the Pats restructure Brady's contract to keep him happy and yet manage the Cap hits enough to keep the resoter ticking, but we seem to hand out guaranteed money over the counter.

If you look at the Patriots cap structure and compare it to the Packers, its kind of telling. The Packers have 6 guys who each count over $10M towards the Cap, Patriots have 3. Belichick has a lot more guys in the $2-4M range than the Packers do. Now maybe I am over simplifying it and/or this is just an unusual year for either or both teams, but I look at the Patriots structure (cap expense only) and it seems like they have a team with better paid depth. Now that doesn't always mean better players, but they usually are at the top of the NFL.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/cap/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/cap/

Again, this is just quick and kind of knee jerk analysis of the two teams Cap structure, I'm sure someone can blow holes a mile wide with what I am saying. :)
 
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