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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 785333" data-attributes="member: 7261">If Gute was in the conversation for Mack, I wouldn't call it "choking".  The Bears being a perceived weaker team had way more value than the Packers with what they offered up for Mack in draft picks.  Just using The Draft Value Trade Chart from this years draft positions the Bears gave up 2800 value points in their two #1 picks, while the Packers would have been giving up 1780 points.  That 1020 point difference equals the value of the 16th pick in the draft.  So basically if you go by what is predicted to happen, the Raiders got some pretty decent value from the Bears, more than the Packers would have had with their two first round picks.I expect both the Packers and possibly the Saints to be much better teams in 2018 and that number would be even a lot less.  The Bears....still rebuilding.It clearly would have taken more than the Packers two first rounders to land Mack and then pay him the kind of money the Bears are paying him, so I would say that Gute was breathing pure oxygen and breathing and seeing very clearly.</blockquote>

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