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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mondio" data-source="post: 999598" data-attributes="member: 10441">Defending against a lot of these accusations isn't because of hero worship or viewing him as a God.  I think i've been pretty clear in my time here, players are players, it's about all I could care about.  They're all human and as long as they don't offend on some of the bigger issues like killing people or beating kids, i'm pretty much a forgiving guy as I've met a lot of people in my time and most of you, myself included, need some forgiving.  But the past few years he's been attacked for pretty much everything and most of it has turned out to be nothing.  Last year with Adams.  Adams was leaving because of Rodgers.  Rodgers was leaving because of Adams, Turns out they're still pretty good friends and none of it was true. and now people will read into Adam's new statements and a whole new slew will probably start, but whatever.  Neither play for this team anymore and both, as I've maintained are very good in their own right and helped each other be better.  or this year.  Hackett wouldn't want Rodgers because he told him "no" in meetings.  He just took control and told the OC they weren't doing something.  He seems pretty excited to have him back in his offensive room if you ask me. What I believe is a normal HC, OC, QB relationship gets turned into " Rodgers is the bad guy" at every turn.  There's been so much stuff throw at the wall in the past 3 years I can't even remember all of it, and most of it turned out to be nothing.  as if there won't be disagreements between HC, OC, and QB.  I bet MLF told  Hackett "no" on more than a few occasions, but there were not articles on that.  It's normal and it's ok.  until the media told us all it wasn't.  Just another example of Aaron Rodgers being a nuisance or worse.He's not perfect.  he misses stuff, he's screwed up at times.  The issue I have is, his "screw ups" often times are just a time or 2 where he looks like every other QB in the league and not his former self and people run with it like he's "the problem" and not the rookie WR's.  Then guys like Kurt Warner do a bit and show you just how often there are screw ups and why there is dysfunction and it largely isn't Rodgers.  But some of us still have to defend against it on here.  Sure there was offensive changes made to use your aging HOF QB's strengths.  that's normal.  that isn't Godgers calling all the shots.  But much of that dysfunction wasn't simply because they didn't run things the same way as before, it was because young guys weren't doing what they were supposed to be doing.Yeah, misdirection and motion and all that sound great.  put Rodgers under center.  But who was going to run all that motion last year?  We saw Lazard do it, show of hands, now many liked it?  Watson from the bench?  How much short stuff was going to be available when defenses were playing everything up close knowing our Oline ouldn't protect and we couldn' get open deep for much of the year?  Maybe he was put in shotgun because of personnel as much as his desire to be there?  Maybe not, maybe he became the defacto HC after his contract, in which case I would have sent them both packing. Or like in the Detroit game, brought it up a few times.  His pass to Toure I believe that was picked in the endzone.  That was not a terrible pass.  It was slightly short, but it was a long pass.  It definitely wasn't perfect, but it wasn't all that bad either.  I contrasted it with a TD to AJ brown who, as good receivers do, adjusted his route, twice, and subtly making the defenders adjust to him and then made it look like an easy catch for a TD.  Something our young WR doesn't do yet.  it's ok, they have to learn, but he ran himself right away from the ball leaving a big window for the defender to fly in and make a play.  Every QB in the league from Brady and Mahomes to everyone else has a lot of deep balls like that.  They aren't all perfect.  Some are, and make highlight reels, but many are not and it takes an experienced WR to help out the QB, and Rodgers got none of it last year.  But when I disagree with a football observation, so many view it as Rodgers worship.  for what?  in saying the pass wasn't perfect?  Toure needs to learn to help a QB out?  Because I disagree that it was a "terrible" pass?  because that's what I disagree with.  Not because I think he's a god.I think he's very intelligent and his attention to details and his expectations in practice probably have driven a few teammates absolutely ****ing nuts to the point they couldn't wait to get away from him.  But I also believe the vast majority were made better players by that and love the player and the man.  But a few will take the few instances and turn into Rodgers is ruining the team arguments again, which I will defend against.  Not because of hero worship, but because I disagree with the exceptions being  made the rules.</blockquote>

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