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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 991533" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>The future draft picks are generally considered lower value by most of the league. Even if you disagree with the premise that "next year is worth less," surely you <em>can </em>agree that the Jets are likely to win more games with Rodgers, ergo, each pick is likely to be later in each round, yes? And in such a situation, those picks will be worth less (not worthless) because they are later in each round? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, I'll admit I know little of Ruckert, but by your own words, he didn't play at all last year due to injury. Where is he in his recovery? Has he even begun rehab? Unknown Value.</p><p></p><p>Mims by most observations is terrible. Why were the Jets willing to move on from him? It seems more likely he'd be cut by the Jets. IMHO, 0 value in trade.</p><p></p><p>Clemons has some value to me, he produced something at this level. And one can never have enough pass rushers, but 5th round no. 4 EDGE players are somewhat plentiful. If he can play special teams, sure, I'd want him. You'd get him for only 3 years vs. 4 as a rookie, so I'd value him approximately where he was drafted minus a little bit.</p><p></p><p>That's my ballpark math.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see why we couldn't get that kind of offer in addition to picks. Though if we're accepting players, I'd hope to get a starter or someone the Packers actually want/graded highly when they came out. Assuming the Packers had graded Ruckert and Mims highly or favorably relative to whatever metric they use, sure, whatever, try to work them into the deal. But I would not add them in, trying to bargain bin dig.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I'm not terribly worried about the cap hit. If we're tight as a result of that hit someday, we'd likely cut some aging vets that are approaching the end of their second contract. The young core would survive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 991533, member: 4199"] The future draft picks are generally considered lower value by most of the league. Even if you disagree with the premise that "next year is worth less," surely you [I]can [/I]agree that the Jets are likely to win more games with Rodgers, ergo, each pick is likely to be later in each round, yes? And in such a situation, those picks will be worth less (not worthless) because they are later in each round? Sure, I'll admit I know little of Ruckert, but by your own words, he didn't play at all last year due to injury. Where is he in his recovery? Has he even begun rehab? Unknown Value. Mims by most observations is terrible. Why were the Jets willing to move on from him? It seems more likely he'd be cut by the Jets. IMHO, 0 value in trade. Clemons has some value to me, he produced something at this level. And one can never have enough pass rushers, but 5th round no. 4 EDGE players are somewhat plentiful. If he can play special teams, sure, I'd want him. You'd get him for only 3 years vs. 4 as a rookie, so I'd value him approximately where he was drafted minus a little bit. That's my ballpark math. I don't see why we couldn't get that kind of offer in addition to picks. Though if we're accepting players, I'd hope to get a starter or someone the Packers actually want/graded highly when they came out. Assuming the Packers had graded Ruckert and Mims highly or favorably relative to whatever metric they use, sure, whatever, try to work them into the deal. But I would not add them in, trying to bargain bin dig. Again, I'm not terribly worried about the cap hit. If we're tight as a result of that hit someday, we'd likely cut some aging vets that are approaching the end of their second contract. The young core would survive. [/QUOTE]
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