How do fans of losing teams do it?

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As frustrating it is at times being a Packers fan, somewhere in there we know that we have a better chance than most.
How or why do fans stay loyal to their Cubs and Browns?
Since I'm not cheering on a losing team I don't understand.
 

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As frustrating it is at times being a Packers fan, somewhere in there we know that we have a better chance than most.
How or why do fans stay loyal to their Cubs and Browns?
Since I'm not cheering on a losing team I don't understand.
Apparently you weren't around for the 70's and 80's ?
 

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Ah yes, the "Gory Years". From 1968 to 1994 we made the playoffs twice, after the 1972 and 1982 seasons. In 1982 we finally got our first playoff win since the second SB. 2 playoffs in 26 years. Still sold out the stadium every year and I still watched every game I could. But 26 years.
 

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Apparently you weren't around for the 70's and 80's ?

Ditto. Until you have watched the greats like Scott Hunter, Jerry Tagge, or Jim Del Gazio line up behind center you just have not had the total Packers experience. A slew of other very forgettable QBs. Then there was the John Hadl fiasco where the Packers traded the farm for a washed up Rams QB. The bright spot was Lynn ****ey who I believe could have led the Packers to SB with a few more pieces.

Lots of fans up to about age 35 who don't remember what its like to have QBs not named Favre or Rodgers leading the Packers.
 

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Ditto. Until you have watched the greats like Scott Hunter, Jerry Tagge, or Jim Del Gazio line up behind center you just have not had the total Packers experience. A slew of other very forgettable QBs. Then there was the John Hadl fiasco where the Packers traded the farm for a washed up Rams QB. The bright spot was Lynn ****ey who I believe could have led the Packers to SB with a few more pieces.

Lots of fans up to about age 35 who don't remember what its like to have QBs not named Favre or Rodgers leading the Packers.
****ey needed a defense... sound familiar? Lol.
 

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As frustrating it is at times being a Packers fan, somewhere in there we know that we have a better chance than most.
How or why do fans stay loyal to their Cubs and Browns?
Since I'm not cheering on a losing team I don't understand.

Several subsequent posts point the young ones to the period between Starr and Favre, but I didn't see anyone specifically address the question. For me, the easy answer is lowered expectations. I knew, going in, that a championship was out of the question, and the playoffs were probably a pipe dream, too. Hence, every week was 'a win is a win' situation, and if it was against a significant rival, or a big upset, or knocked another team out of contention, it was something that would carry us through the week. Because we've had basically 20+ years of success (in terms of W-L record, playoffs, division championships, et. al.) individual wins are no longer something to hang one's hat on. For those that feel as I do, much of this century has been more of a downer than the Gory Years, simply because they haven't been the Lovable Losers that could smile at, shake our heads, and move one - they've blown chances for what was a realistic expectation of the ultimate prize.
 

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As frustrating it is at times being a Packers fan, somewhere in there we know that we have a better chance than most.
How or why do fans stay loyal to their Cubs and Browns?
Since I'm not cheering on a losing team I don't understand.
During the gory years you took solace in the occasional bright spots. The John Brockington's, James Lofton's, Sterling Sharpe's. The morale boosting victories of close losses to the 49ers or Bengals during that era. The R-O-Y and probowl candidates. Optimism finishing the season on a 7-2 run after starting 1-4 and just missing the one wild card slot of the time. And Sunday noon games that you didn't need to watch after midway through the 3rd quarter so you could go outside. They weren't good enough for Monday Night Football very often.

Ignore the naysayers and look at the good things pointed out after the game this week. The good throws and catches. The stifling run defense and productive running offense. Do that for a generation. Welcome to the perennial losers outlook of the world.
 

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I started getting serious about football when Mike Holmgren was our coach. Not just because of Green Bay; I just liked watching football and my dad liked several teams including the Packers. But living halfway between the Browns and Bungles (people used to call the Bengals that every year), I knew a lot about perennial losers who don't know how to win. They just weren't the pre-Favre Packers. There were many problems with those franchises that caused them to suck from top to bottom. I had no reason to be a Bungles fan except the fact they were on TV almost every Sunday. Not with players saying they want to play for other teams, a coach quitting midseason because he could not bear losing anymore, Mike Brown making football decisions, etc.

The Packers OTOH live and die with the QB. Between Bart Starr and Favre, they were bad. When Aaron Rodgers has a broken collarbone, they are bad. Sure, there are other reasons, but they are NOT in any way like the 1990s Bungles. I can root for a team if its reasons for losing a lot of games do not include tanking for draft picks that will end up busting out of the league in a few years.
 

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As frustrating it is at times being a Packers fan, somewhere in there we know that we have a better chance than most.
How or why do fans stay loyal to their Cubs and Browns?
Since I'm not cheering on a losing team I don't understand.
At some point it become a moot point that your team sucks. You learn to live with or you quit. Those that quit are were not really fans. You root for the small victories and hope for the future. That "some day" that may never come. You also grow a thick skin from talking with fans of other teams. Because one thing they will always throw at you is that your team sucks.

Man, if I had $1 for every time a Packer fan ragged me about the Vikings not winning a Super Bowl I could have retired 10 years ago. ;)
 

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Browns fan did this a while back I thought it was hilarious and hope to the high heavens I will never find myself in that same position.
 

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Well we know this is truth. Part of being a fan is not bailing on your team when they aren't doing well. Otherwise your not really a fan.

Amen. If anyone says he/she wants the Packers to lose for any reason, I will call out that person as not being a Packers fan, because all Packers fans want to win every week.
 

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As frustrating it is at times being a Packers fan, somewhere in there we know that we have a better chance than most.
How or why do fans stay loyal to their Cubs and Browns?
Since I'm not cheering on a losing team I don't understand.

I can't imagine being a Browns fan. Your season is over before it begins. Clown show management too.
 

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Can I just offer up that it is just a game? Do you have children? Man, there are so many more important things in this life. But ok, I'll offer up this. It was not fun sitting in Lambeau when the "green stench hovered over Lambeau"...yet there I sat. Loved the game and loved the Pack...just as my Dad taught me, but the Pack never defined who I was so...I just got on with it.

Does anyone wonder why Ron Wolf is in the Hall of Fame? You had to live it to adequately understand it. Everyone always talks about Favre, White and Holmgren..and I'm good with that except that my first thoughts go to Harlan and Wolf - the guys pulling the trigger.
 

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We didn't have much in the Gory years but man that Monday nighter against Washington was something else!
 

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When Sharpe came along, this was, to me, the time that the team started to show some signs. Along came 4 followed by 92. From thence into offensive and defensive beauty. Reggie made the D legit immediately. This D that Favre rode to a ring was all of that. The team surrounded 4 with talent, and began surrounding 92 with supporting cast.

I remember when Starr coached the pack. EWWWW, ouch. Devine, Infante, Gregg...MEH. Ugly. Straight out Ugly. Bill wouldn't even date her. lol
 

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When Sharpe came along, this was, to me, the time that the team started to show some signs. Along came 4 followed by 92. From thence into offensive and defensive beauty. Reggie made the D legit immediately. This D that Favre rode to a ring was all of that. The team surrounded 4 with talent, and began surrounding 92 with supporting cast.

I remember when Starr coached the pack. EWWWW, ouch. Devine, Infante, Gregg...MEH. Ugly. Straight out Ugly. Bill wouldn't even date her. lol

You left out Ray Rhodes. :eek:
 

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When Sharpe came along, this was, to me, the time that the team started to show some signs. Along came 4 followed by 92. From thence into offensive and defensive beauty. Reggie made the D legit immediately. This D that Favre rode to a ring was all of that. The team surrounded 4 with talent, and began surrounding 92 with supporting cast.

I remember when Starr coached the pack. EWWWW, ouch. Devine, Infante, Gregg...MEH. Ugly. Straight out Ugly. Bill wouldn't even date her. lol
Yeah, but you never had anyone like Les Steckel. :mad:
 

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