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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 814091"><p>You mixed together the various assessments of various people as though it was one waffling, consensus voice. Which of those, in retrospect, appear correct? Here's the picture I painted:</p><p></p><p>1) The reporting relationship, with Gutekunst, Ball and McCarthy all reporting to Murphy, was a clear indication that Murphy would be more hands on. The reasons for that were multiple:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Either on his own initiative or under pressure from the Executive Committee or by consensus, after the 2017 mess it was decided the football operation was slipping, Rodgers injury notwithstanding.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">This is a business. Mark Murphy has an MBA in finance. He is first and foremost a businessman. It's common in business for an executive to get more hands-on when things are not going swimmingly in order to figure out where the the problems lie.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Rodgers contract negotiation was above everybody else's pay grade, with the consequences being far reaching.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">With facilties upgrades and Titletown District development mostly in the rear view mirror, he had the time to devote to the football operation. It could be argued he was unduly neglectful previously in attending to business matters. Or one might say if you make the playoffs it's an "if ain't broke don't fix it" situation. Regardless, by the end of 2017 it was pretty clear some some stuff was broken. Which stuff? Gotta find out now. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Murphy's role in the football operation is what I came to call uber-GM. </li> </ul><p>2) It looked to me from the get go that Thompson was relegated to "GM Emeritus" status for consultation during the transition. That looks right. Some wanted to attribute that to health issues whereby his load would be lightened but he'd still be pulling the strings. Others pointed to his sub-standard drafts as having reached a tipping point. That latter point could not be ignored. In the final analysis, he had an office, he was writing scouting reports, he was in the draft room. How seriously his opinions were taken is debateable, but it's clear to me he was not the "decider". Another report had him returning to Texas in November, which is telling, supposedly doing some scouting work from home. For all we know he may still be on the payroll for 2019 working off his contract. He's still listed as "Senior Advisor to Football Operations". His future presence in the building going foward, if at all, isn't going any further than pop-ins. I saw, and see, no reason to believe his presence was or will be anything but peripheral. Or maybe he gets hired to do something elsewhere. Regardless, the day Gutekunst was hired was the day his influence was marginalized. And that is not 20/20 hindsight. </p><p></p><p>3) It was my assessment that this reporting relationship, along with McCarthy getting a contract extension through 2019, was an indication he'd have more say in personnel. The degree to which McCarthy had input into decisions is hard to assess, but given the reporting relationship and with a rookie GM, I'd be pretty confident in saying it was more than before.</p><p></p><p>4) Capers was fired. Gutekunst wasn't promoted yet and was still interviewing elsewhere, Houston in particular. Capers firing could have gone a couple of ways:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">McCarthy says to Murphy, "It's time to move on," and Murphy agrees.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Murphy says to McCarthy, "It's time to move on" and McCarthy agrees.</li> </ul><p>Either way, with Murphy getting down in the weeds, the idea that McCarthy just picked up the phone and told Capers, "thanks for your service," is highly implausible.</p><p></p><p>Even before these developments, the notion of Chinese walls whereby the GM unilaterally hires and fires the head coach and defines roster needs with complete control over personnel and selects the personnel, and the head coach unilaterally hires and fires the assistaants is quaint. It's an easy to digest picture for public consumption. There are inevitably shade of gray. It just happens to grayer with Thompson's moved aside, and it remains so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 814091"] You mixed together the various assessments of various people as though it was one waffling, consensus voice. Which of those, in retrospect, appear correct? Here's the picture I painted: 1) The reporting relationship, with Gutekunst, Ball and McCarthy all reporting to Murphy, was a clear indication that Murphy would be more hands on. The reasons for that were multiple: [LIST] [*]Either on his own initiative or under pressure from the Executive Committee or by consensus, after the 2017 mess it was decided the football operation was slipping, Rodgers injury notwithstanding. [*]This is a business. Mark Murphy has an MBA in finance. He is first and foremost a businessman. It's common in business for an executive to get more hands-on when things are not going swimmingly in order to figure out where the the problems lie. [*]The Rodgers contract negotiation was above everybody else's pay grade, with the consequences being far reaching. [*]With facilties upgrades and Titletown District development mostly in the rear view mirror, he had the time to devote to the football operation. It could be argued he was unduly neglectful previously in attending to business matters. Or one might say if you make the playoffs it's an "if ain't broke don't fix it" situation. Regardless, by the end of 2017 it was pretty clear some some stuff was broken. Which stuff? Gotta find out now. [*]Murphy's role in the football operation is what I came to call uber-GM. [/LIST] 2) It looked to me from the get go that Thompson was relegated to "GM Emeritus" status for consultation during the transition. That looks right. Some wanted to attribute that to health issues whereby his load would be lightened but he'd still be pulling the strings. Others pointed to his sub-standard drafts as having reached a tipping point. That latter point could not be ignored. In the final analysis, he had an office, he was writing scouting reports, he was in the draft room. How seriously his opinions were taken is debateable, but it's clear to me he was not the "decider". Another report had him returning to Texas in November, which is telling, supposedly doing some scouting work from home. For all we know he may still be on the payroll for 2019 working off his contract. He's still listed as "Senior Advisor to Football Operations". His future presence in the building going foward, if at all, isn't going any further than pop-ins. I saw, and see, no reason to believe his presence was or will be anything but peripheral. Or maybe he gets hired to do something elsewhere. Regardless, the day Gutekunst was hired was the day his influence was marginalized. And that is not 20/20 hindsight. 3) It was my assessment that this reporting relationship, along with McCarthy getting a contract extension through 2019, was an indication he'd have more say in personnel. The degree to which McCarthy had input into decisions is hard to assess, but given the reporting relationship and with a rookie GM, I'd be pretty confident in saying it was more than before. 4) Capers was fired. Gutekunst wasn't promoted yet and was still interviewing elsewhere, Houston in particular. Capers firing could have gone a couple of ways: [LIST] [*]McCarthy says to Murphy, "It's time to move on," and Murphy agrees. [*]Murphy says to McCarthy, "It's time to move on" and McCarthy agrees. [/LIST] Either way, with Murphy getting down in the weeds, the idea that McCarthy just picked up the phone and told Capers, "thanks for your service," is highly implausible. Even before these developments, the notion of Chinese walls whereby the GM unilaterally hires and fires the head coach and defines roster needs with complete control over personnel and selects the personnel, and the head coach unilaterally hires and fires the assistaants is quaint. It's an easy to digest picture for public consumption. There are inevitably shade of gray. It just happens to grayer with Thompson's moved aside, and it remains so. [/QUOTE]
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