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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 852191" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>Rudolph did not pick a fight. He reacted to a dirty play by a dirty player on a dirty team, during a game in which the Browns had been playing dirty all night. Garrett created the situation with his actions on that play. People acting as though the mere attempt to grab at Garrett's helmet on the ground initiated the whole thing are either ignorant of what happened beforehand (not to mention the context of the game), or choosing to ignore it. </p><p></p><p>If it's "chickenshit" to do what Rudolph did in "most people's books," then I have to wonder why so few people seem to share your take. I find it bizarre that you think Rudolph somehow should have changed his emotional reaction in the moment simply because some of his offensive linemen were present. What he did, while not the best reaction as it escalated the situation, was 100% understandable. </p><p></p><p>On the one hand, I'm hearing a lot of "Garrett just reacted to what Rudolph started" (B.S.-- Garrett started it) and "Garrett was just reacting to being outnumbered" (B.S.-- he didn't swing simply because an offensive lineman was present), and on the other, that Rudolph should have somehow calmly assessed that his OL were present and chosen not to confront the dirty piece of **** that just hit him late in a game that was over and then ripped his helmet off by the face mask. And for some reason you're shaming Rudolph as some sort of coward because his OL were there? That's just a garbage take. </p><p></p><p><em>Obviously </em>Garrett is capable of beating up Rudolph. He's a hulking defensive end. That has nothing to do with anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 852191, member: 12283"] Rudolph did not pick a fight. He reacted to a dirty play by a dirty player on a dirty team, during a game in which the Browns had been playing dirty all night. Garrett created the situation with his actions on that play. People acting as though the mere attempt to grab at Garrett's helmet on the ground initiated the whole thing are either ignorant of what happened beforehand (not to mention the context of the game), or choosing to ignore it. If it's "chickenshit" to do what Rudolph did in "most people's books," then I have to wonder why so few people seem to share your take. I find it bizarre that you think Rudolph somehow should have changed his emotional reaction in the moment simply because some of his offensive linemen were present. What he did, while not the best reaction as it escalated the situation, was 100% understandable. On the one hand, I'm hearing a lot of "Garrett just reacted to what Rudolph started" (B.S.-- Garrett started it) and "Garrett was just reacting to being outnumbered" (B.S.-- he didn't swing simply because an offensive lineman was present), and on the other, that Rudolph should have somehow calmly assessed that his OL were present and chosen not to confront the dirty piece of **** that just hit him late in a game that was over and then ripped his helmet off by the face mask. And for some reason you're shaming Rudolph as some sort of coward because his OL were there? That's just a garbage take. [I]Obviously [/I]Garrett is capable of beating up Rudolph. He's a hulking defensive end. That has nothing to do with anything. [/QUOTE]
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