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Here are the categories:

Favorite Pick: Note here, the best pick objectively, but the one you like the best.

Least Favorite Pick: Which one are you struggling with?

Biggest Immediate Impact: Who makes the biggest difference in 2022?

Biggest Long Term Impact: Who makes the biggest difference in five years?

Sleeper Pick: Who do you like to dramatically exceed expectations?

Best NFCN Pick: Which picks were the best among the Lions, Bears, and Vikings?

Worst NFCN Pick: Which picks were the worst among the Lions, Bears, and Vikings?

Alternative: Who would you have taken given how the board fell at #22? #28?
 

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We talking just Packers picks right, except for the two specifically speaking to the division?
 
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Favorite Pick- Sean Rhyan, OL, UCLA: I love Rhyan's combination of toughness, strength, athleticism, and versatility. He's a classic Packers slam dunk on the offensive line.

Least Favorite Pick- Devonte Wyatt, iDL, UGA: I get all the incredible talent and the way that he fills a need for an interior rusher with some juice. But I just really struggle with a 24 year old rookie 1st rounder.

Biggest Immediate Impact- Quay Walker, LB, UGA: Walker's presence will significantly change the way that the defense is deployed and functions. Close 2nd would be Watson-- the absence/presence of vertical speed in the offense makes a huge difference.

Biggest Long Term Impact- Zach Tom, OL, WF: I think there's a solid chance that, in the long term, Tom could be the heir apparent to Bakhtiari. If pick #140 ends up being a franchise LT... that's pretty great.

Sleeper Pick- Romeo Doubs, WR, NEV: Doubs' fell off the radar for a lot of people when he wasn't able to work out at the combine, but the more one sees of him, the more excitement builds for his potential.

Best NFCN Picks:

-Lions: Josh Paschal, DL, UK:
Talented, young, versatile, and high character; great pick at #46.
-Bears: Jaquan Brisker, S, PSU: Brisker is on the older size, but he's got excellent tools and production (pick #48).
-Vikings: Andrew Booth, CB, CLEM: Booth (#42) is a 1st round type of CB prospect but he fell with injury concerns.

Worst NFCN Picks:

-Lions: None:
I can't find any pick of consequence that I think is worth criticizing.
-Bears: Velus Jones, WR, TEN: Jones is a 25 year old return specialist and they took him at #71.
-Vikings: Ed Ingram, G, LSU: There were OL I thought were better on the board for some time after this pick.
 

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Favorite Pick: Zach Tom - I was a massive TOM fanboy, and to get him when we did is just STUPID good.

Least Favorite Pick: Rasheed Walker - We already had two OL I liked and didn't see him as near the top of my board....nor need....Isaac Taylor-Stuart was still out there shockingly, and I always prefer grabbing one CB a draft. Dude amassed 80 tackles at USC, 7 PDs and 2 INTs for the Tr

Biggest Immediate Impact: Who makes the biggest difference in 2022? Honestly, I'd LOVE to say Watson and he may be the most influential rookie in games at the end of the season for us, but on the whole season I truly think it will be Quay or one of Tom/Rhyan who steals the RG spot. In the end I'll vote Quay because I think out the gate he is the #2 ILB and will be moved around and used a lot...amassing I bet gets close or breaks 100 tackles his rookie year minimum.

Biggest Long Term Impact: Who makes the biggest difference in five years? Damn this is tough. so I have to say Wyatt or Tom. My logic is one or even both of them I envision becoming habitual starters and anchors at their respective positions for their side of the balls.....and they will both potential before even 5 years justify us potentially not giving or having to give MASSIVE contracts to the likes of Clark or Bakh/Jenkins. I'll say Wyatt merely because the lifespan of DL seems more limited than even elite OL these days playing upper 30s still. Wyatt could save us from an addition mega deal for Clark.

Sleeper Pick: Who do you like to dramatically exceed expectations? Tariq Carpenter. This kid is just a freak body/athlete. Something that looks like a SUV should accelerate like a sportscar...it just shouldn't. I am not 100% sure what or where Barry is going to use him but this kid is going to be something in our system...and honestly I feel like he is without question the overlooked pick. Toure will be the "easy" answer....
**IF including UDFA pick ups....I say Ellis Brooks as I think he makes the team which is already above expectations.

Best NFCN Pick: Which picks were the best among the Lions, Bears, and Vikings? Lions Paschal pairing with Aidan....DAMN.

Worst NFCN Pick: Which picks were the worst among the Lions, Bears, and Vikings? Bears using a high 3rd on Velus Jones....he may become a good returner, but I don't see long term NFL weapon or lifespan...not too mention the dude is already closer to 30 than 20 before he steps on the field...

Alternative: Who would you have taken given how the board fell at #22? #28? Jermaine Johnson at #22
 
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Favorite Pick- Sean Rhyan, OL, UCLA: I love Rhyan's combination of toughness, strength, athleticism, and versatility. He's a classic Packers slam dunk on the offensive line.

Least Favorite Pick- Devonte Wyatt, iDL, UGA: I get all the incredible talent and the way that he fills a need for an interior rusher with some juice. But I just really struggle with a 24 year old rookie 1st rounder.

Biggest Immediate Impact- Quay Walker, LB, UGA: Walker's presence will significantly change the way that the defense is deployed and functions. Close 2nd would be Watson-- the absence/presence of vertical speed in the offense makes a huge difference.

Biggest Long Term Impact- Zach Tom, OL, WF: I think there's a solid chance that, in the long term, Tom could be the heir apparent to Bakhtiari. If pick #140 ends up being a franchise LT... that's pretty great.

Sleeper Pick- Romeo Doubs, WR, NEV: Doubs' fell off the radar for a lot of people when he wasn't able to work out at the combine, but the more one sees of him, the more excitement builds for his potential.

Best NFCN Picks:

-Lions: Josh Paschal, DL, UK:
Talented, young, versatile, and high character; great pick at #46.
-Bears: Jaquan Brisker, S, PSU: Brisker is on the older size, but he's got excellent tools and production (pick #48).
-Vikings: Andrew Booth, CB, CLEM: Booth (#42) is a 1st round type of CB prospect but he fell with injury concerns.

Worst NFCN Picks:

-Lions: None:
I can't find any pick of consequence that I think is worth criticizing.
-Bears: Velus Jones, WR, TEN: Jones is a 25 year old return specialist and they took him at #71.
-Vikings: Ed Ingram, G, LSU: There were OL I thought were better on the board for some time after this pick.

I forgot my one of my own categories.

I think I would have taken Daxton Hill at #22 and George Karlaftis at #28.
 
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Favorite Pick: Christian Watson
imo he is a true Boom or Bust type. But for now if he can gain Rodgers trust he’s got positive parts of both Davante and MVS combined. He might have similarities to Javon Walker, but I think he’s going to have both a higher catch rate and YAC than Walker did.

Least Favorite Pick:
This is really tough because I actually like this draft. I’d have picked
Q. Walker, but only because I think he was still there at pick #28. That means we likely missed an opportunity to trade back with KC for their #94 overall. That lands us a bonus choice of Safety Kerby Joseph or Nick Cross as an example. Your pick.
If Walker goes unexpectedly? We got Leo Chenal or another pretty darn good LB in Day 2.
But the also you got #29 to spend and we get Karlaftis AND Chenal in trade for Walker. I Like Walker but love those 2 more. That’s Wyatt, Karlaftis+ Chenal but sacrificing Walker. Everything else remains intact


Biggest Immediate Impact:
This will sound oddly redundant. Yet from the other side of the Walker argument, in his Defense.. he’s most likely to get a starting role and put up good Rookie production. He’s going to feast on the leftovers of Kenny, Reed, Wyatt, Gary and
P. Smith

Biggest Long Term Impact:
I could see one of those 3-4th Round OL (Rhyan/Tom being a mainstay and getting a 2nd contract to finish 6+ Years in Green n Gold. While OL isn’t flashy in highlights, it’s imperative in O success.

Sleeper Pick:
We exchanged one Kingsley for another Kingsley. Both 5th round investments. What I adore about this selection is that he left far too many Sacks on the field because he didn’t wrap up properly and he’s slightly underweight. I’m reading between the Lines here, that’s a backwards strong compliment. Those are both very fixable with the right LB coaching staff.

Best NFCN Pick: Which picks were the best among the Lions, Bears, and Vikings? Jameson Williams scares me because his potential is so high and once he’s healthy should be their #1. Has he remained healthy there’s a 50/50 he’s a top 5 selection this season. Top 10 overall any other season.

Worst NFCN Pick:
Velus Jones is not Allen Robinson. That’s like crashing into the hurdle there around the second turn to replace a formidable perimeter WR like Robinson. It’s not that he’s bad (really good ST pick) but that’s a high price to pay there in Day 2 for a guy that’s at best a WR3-4 his Rookie season.

Alternative: Who would you have taken given how the board fell at #22? #28?
Traded back with KC and let them keep their 6th and given them our 7th just to solidify #94 overall. I’d taken Wyatt and Karlaftis back to back. Then used #94 to add Leo Chenal as our bonus guy to pair with Campbell.

All this said. I respect Gutey for staying true to HIS grading. Walker is going to be special next to Campbell. Probably a top 3 LB duo league wise. IF he turns out to be worth his draft salt? This ILB group is the best we’ve had in decades. No more getting repeatedly gashed
 
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Quay's addition made us have IMO the best ILB room in the league arguably - IF he is everything we think. That is a room where the #3 is a guy that trends towards figures of 100 tackles a game season rate in Barnes...LOVE IT.
 
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Quay's addition made us have IMO the best ILB room in the league arguably - IF he is everything we think. That is a room where the #3 is a guy that trends towards figures of 100 tackles a game season rate in Barnes...LOVE IT.
We have a very good starter, a rookie with lots of potential, and a guy who is mediocre at best. Barnes sucks in coverage, is undersized, but hits hard when he manages to make the right key. Tackles as an evaluating stat is just really overrated. Blake Martinez would be a great example of that.
 

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We have a very good starter, a rookie with lots of potential, and a guy who is mediocre at best. Barnes sucks in coverage, is undersized, but hits hard when he manages to make the right key. Tackles as an evaluating stat is just really overrated. Blake Martinez would be a great example of that.

Sorry no. Actually watch tape he is more than Martinez was and although limited in coverage has done better each season. Shoot the dude with a wrapped casted hand that one time excelled in coverage for us his rookie year a few games.

I am not naive and saying he is a top ILB in the league, but the dude would be at least half the leagues #2 and start or push to start some.
 

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Sorry no. Actually watch tape he is more than Martinez was and although limited in coverage has done better each season. Shoot the dude with a wrapped casted hand that one time excelled in coverage for us his rookie year a few games.

I am not naive and saying he is a top ILB in the league, but the dude would be at least half the leagues #2 and start or push to start some.
Krys Barnes is good in the same way that Tyler Lancaster is. They hustle, try hard, but at the end of the day aren’t more than decent backups that their teams will constantly try to upgrade me.

And the professionals that actually watch tape decided to draft a LB in the first freaking round. If Barnes was anywhere near capable as a starter, the GB Packers wouldn’t have done that. I’m not going to pretend that I’ve been grinding away on the film for the Packer players and a couple hundred draft prospects, but I watch enough football to know who’s good and who isn’t.
 

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Favorite Pick: Romeo Doubs

Least Favorite Pick: Honestly none, but I guess I’ll say Christian Watson. I still have some doubts and it took a lot of value to trade up and get him.

Biggest Immediate Impact: Wyatt

Biggest Long Term Impact: Wyatt

Sleeper Pick: Toure

Best NFCN Pick: I have no idea
Worst NFCN Pick: The Bears took a 25 year old ST’s WR in the 3rd round lol. Long live the Bears.


Alternative: Karlaftis and Pickens.
 

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Krys Barnes is good in the same way that Tyler Lancaster is. They hustle, try hard, but at the end of the day aren’t more than decent backups that their teams will constantly try to upgrade me.

And the professionals that actually watch tape decided to draft a LB in the first freaking round. If Barnes was anywhere near capable as a starter, the GB Packers wouldn’t have done that. I’m not going to pretend that I’ve been grinding away on the film for the Packer players and a couple hundred draft prospects, but I watch enough football to know who’s good and who isn’t.

I’m not saying Barnes is a stud starter, but sorry comparing him to the sixth string DL is ignorant in my opinion. Still love ya!
 

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Favorite Pick: Christian Watson... think he quickly becomes a good/great cross between Adams (as goto WR) and MVS' deep
threat.

Least Favorite Pick: Rasheed Walker, only because I don't think he'll ever make it to our 53 with the roster as is, now.

Biggest Immediate Impact:
Wyatt... another DL threat won't allow teams to continously double Clark.

Biggest Long Term Impact:
Tom... instantly becomes Mr. Flexible and fills in anywhere there's an injury, another Jenkins.

Sleeper Pick:
Doubs...think he's the real deal & becomes AR's security/comfort WR#2 to Watson's #1.

Best NFCN Pick:
Lions: Hutchinson is an animal; Vikings: Cine; Bears: Brisker

Worst NFCN Pick:
Lions: None, they all make the roster better; Vikings: Probably Ingram; Bears: RB-Ebner, hard to make
their 53.

Alternative:
Would've rather had Johnson, Karlaftis @ 22, but either way GB is considerably better.
 
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