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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1058823" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Just a quick exercise...weeks before I cleanse my spreadsheets and such...but the hated and loved RAS score exercise as an example of how tape traits translate to physical measurables is often discussed. We hear folks say this guy should be taken look at his production, 7 INTs as an example.....but then you hear draft pundits or guys like Daniel Jeremiah say he doesn't see it...hips are tight, footwork is rough and 4 of those picks were against sub par QBs and 2 of the remaining three were in junk time hail mary type stuff....well if the guy is tight in the hips, poor footwork and such all this comes out in the testing "usually"</p><p></p><p>CB this year, combine participants with a RAS score of over 7.00</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Darien Porter</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Iowa State</td><td>9.99</td></tr><tr><td>Caleb Ransaw</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Tulane</td><td>9.95</td></tr><tr><td>Kitan Crawford</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Nevada</td><td>9.9</td></tr><tr><td>Maxwell Hairston</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Kentucky</td><td>9.71</td></tr><tr><td>Zah Frazier</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>UTSA</td><td>9.28</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Marshall Jr.</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Florida</td><td>9.03</td></tr><tr><td>Jahdae Barron</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Texas</td><td>9</td></tr><tr><td>Jacob Parrish</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Kansas State</td><td>8.95</td></tr><tr><td>Robert Longerbeam</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Rutgers</td><td>8.78</td></tr><tr><td>Trey Amos</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Mississippi</td><td>8.72</td></tr><tr><td>Bilhal Kone</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Western Michigan</td><td>8.54</td></tr><tr><td>Nohl Williams</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>California</td><td>8.32</td></tr><tr><td>Mac McWilliams</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Central Florida</td><td>8.04</td></tr><tr><td>Isas Waxter</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Villanova</td><td>8.01</td></tr><tr><td>Upton Stout</td><td>CB</td><td>2025</td><td>Western Kentucky</td><td>7.59</td></tr></table><p></p><p>That's it...fifteen....and of those I would venture to guess half are guys many have never even heard of. Shoot I had never looked up, watched film or read even about Waxter or Frazier myself yet.</p><p></p><p>Now let's think realistically who seems to have value high enough to consider for GB to use a first or second on...that list becomes:</p><p></p><p>"Most People"</p><p>Darien Porter</p><p>Jahdae Barron</p><p>Maxwell Hairston</p><p>Trey Amos</p><p></p><p>I would add Jacob Parrish and Nohl Williams</p><p></p><p>Now of those six guys how many are not at the 190lb threshold that Green Bay truly seems to live by and never waiver unless going safety direction...Maxwell Hairston DID NOT make weight.</p><p></p><p>That leaves height to consider...Jacob Parrish doesn't even hit 5'10' which while rare GB has dabbled in...so remove him.</p><p></p><p>That leaves Jahdae Barron (will be GONE BY 23), Darien Porter (converted WR that some will scream about his injury past), Trey Amos (good but not great it seems) and Nohl Williams (maybe a touch too early).</p><p></p><p>Now these are just the combine guys...two other guys that HAVE to be considered in the range we are speaking is Benjamin Morrison and Shavon Revel. Morrison recovering from hip surgery will not be at ND's pro Day but is going to host private workouts...which sucks because most likely none of us will learn how he showed. Revel also won't be doing pro day or combine....so these two are question marks to some, but not me - Morrison to me if healthy (I'd assume GB asks for a private workout) is a first rounder and fits all the GB types (did weigh in at combine at 193 at 6 foot) and Revel also is everything but an inch taller and pound heavier.</p><p></p><p>Day1 if we go CB I assume it will be one of the six guys mentioned but would be shocked if Barron falls to us. My money would be on Morrison, Amos or Porter because each are about as solid overall as you can get, with Morrison having the elite production and hands / Porter an elite of all elite athletes / Amos that all around well rounded prospect.</p><p></p><p>Jason Marshall Jr. FYI continues to be my Day3 likely GB target as he checks EVERY box they desire checked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1058823, member: 6578"] Just a quick exercise...weeks before I cleanse my spreadsheets and such...but the hated and loved RAS score exercise as an example of how tape traits translate to physical measurables is often discussed. We hear folks say this guy should be taken look at his production, 7 INTs as an example.....but then you hear draft pundits or guys like Daniel Jeremiah say he doesn't see it...hips are tight, footwork is rough and 4 of those picks were against sub par QBs and 2 of the remaining three were in junk time hail mary type stuff....well if the guy is tight in the hips, poor footwork and such all this comes out in the testing "usually" CB this year, combine participants with a RAS score of over 7.00 [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Darien Porter[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Iowa State[/TD] [TD]9.99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Caleb Ransaw[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Tulane[/TD] [TD]9.95[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Kitan Crawford[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Nevada[/TD] [TD]9.9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Maxwell Hairston[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Kentucky[/TD] [TD]9.71[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Zah Frazier[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]UTSA[/TD] [TD]9.28[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Jason Marshall Jr.[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Florida[/TD] [TD]9.03[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Jahdae Barron[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Texas[/TD] [TD]9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Jacob Parrish[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Kansas State[/TD] [TD]8.95[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Robert Longerbeam[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Rutgers[/TD] [TD]8.78[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trey Amos[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Mississippi[/TD] [TD]8.72[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bilhal Kone[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Western Michigan[/TD] [TD]8.54[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nohl Williams[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]California[/TD] [TD]8.32[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mac McWilliams[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Central Florida[/TD] [TD]8.04[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Isas Waxter[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Villanova[/TD] [TD]8.01[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Upton Stout[/TD] [TD]CB[/TD] [TD]2025[/TD] [TD]Western Kentucky[/TD] [TD]7.59[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] That's it...fifteen....and of those I would venture to guess half are guys many have never even heard of. Shoot I had never looked up, watched film or read even about Waxter or Frazier myself yet. Now let's think realistically who seems to have value high enough to consider for GB to use a first or second on...that list becomes: "Most People" Darien Porter Jahdae Barron Maxwell Hairston Trey Amos I would add Jacob Parrish and Nohl Williams Now of those six guys how many are not at the 190lb threshold that Green Bay truly seems to live by and never waiver unless going safety direction...Maxwell Hairston DID NOT make weight. That leaves height to consider...Jacob Parrish doesn't even hit 5'10' which while rare GB has dabbled in...so remove him. That leaves Jahdae Barron (will be GONE BY 23), Darien Porter (converted WR that some will scream about his injury past), Trey Amos (good but not great it seems) and Nohl Williams (maybe a touch too early). Now these are just the combine guys...two other guys that HAVE to be considered in the range we are speaking is Benjamin Morrison and Shavon Revel. Morrison recovering from hip surgery will not be at ND's pro Day but is going to host private workouts...which sucks because most likely none of us will learn how he showed. Revel also won't be doing pro day or combine....so these two are question marks to some, but not me - Morrison to me if healthy (I'd assume GB asks for a private workout) is a first rounder and fits all the GB types (did weigh in at combine at 193 at 6 foot) and Revel also is everything but an inch taller and pound heavier. Day1 if we go CB I assume it will be one of the six guys mentioned but would be shocked if Barron falls to us. My money would be on Morrison, Amos or Porter because each are about as solid overall as you can get, with Morrison having the elite production and hands / Porter an elite of all elite athletes / Amos that all around well rounded prospect. Jason Marshall Jr. FYI continues to be my Day3 likely GB target as he checks EVERY box they desire checked. [/QUOTE]
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