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<blockquote data-quote="JBlood" data-source="post: 357951" data-attributes="member: 16"><p>Here are a few more facts for those who value them:</p><p></p><p>This is from an AP article in the Chicago Trib on 2/28/10:</p><p></p><p>"In a report released in December 2010, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the average state/local government worker earns $40.10 an hour in salary and benefits. The same report found the average private worker earns $27.68 an hour in salary and benefits.</p><p></p><p>But the report was quick to note that this is not a direct comparison. Government workers tend to be better-educated than their private-sector counterparts, and government jobs are more likely to be professional or managerial as opposed to the many more manufacturing and sales jobs in the private work force.</p><p></p><p>In fact, studies that compare salaries and benefits for similar jobs between the public and private sectors show that government workers lag."</p><p></p><p>"An April 2010 report by the Center for State & Local Government Excellence — a nonpartisan, Washington-based group with Republicans and Democrats on its board of directors — found that in 2008, state workers nationwide earned 11 percent less and local workers earned 12 percent less than private workers with comparable education levels." (<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-facts-overshadowed-in-debate-over-wis-union-bill-20110228,0,6740935.story?page=2" target="_blank">Facts overshadowed in debate over Wis. union bill - chicagotribune.com</a>)</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Walker claims that Wisconsin is "one of the highest taxed states." His campaign rounds the numbers up to put the state closer to the top 10 and it relies on a researcher’s prediction that is informed but speculative. The campaign also cherry-picks a study by a conservative group that finds business taxes are high, but it does not account for other data that show Wisconsin’s business taxes are middle or low." (<a href="http://politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2010/sep/19/scott-walker/scott-walker-says-wisconsin-one-highest-taxed-stat/" target="_blank">PolitiFact Wisconsin | Scott Walker says Wisconsin is one of the highest taxed states in the nation</a>)</p><p></p><p>" The latest figures from the National Education Association actually put the average salary for a Wisconsin teacher at $51,264.</p><p>"We couldn't find a definitive, independent state average for benefits in Wisconsin, but the data from the state Department of Public Instruction lists "fringe benefits" by district in Wisconsin. None were as high as $39,000. The median was about $25,800.</p><p>" In total compensation, Wisconsin ranks 23rd in the nation."</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> "OK, now to the Average Joe or Jane who works in the private sector."</p><p> </p><p> "According to a national compensation survey conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the total cost of compensation to private industry employees last year came to about $58,000 ($41,000 for salary; $17,000 for benefits)."</p><p></p><p>"In order to be a teacher in Wisconsin, you've got to have a 4-year college degree. And 52 percent of Wisconsin teachers also have a master's degree. That's much, much higher than the average education level for workers in the private sector. People with higher degrees in education typically get paid more.</p><p> </p><p> We found two studies that factored in such things as education level, years of experience, race, gender, etc. and found that public employees tend to make a little less than people with similar backgrounds in the private sector."(<a href="http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/23/eric-bolling/fox-business-news-eric-bolling-says-wisconsin-teac/" target="_blank">PolitiFact | Fox Business News' Eric Bolling says Wisconsin teachers get compensated nearly double those in private sector</a>)</p><p></p><p>("never let the facts get in the way of a good argument")</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JBlood, post: 357951, member: 16"] Here are a few more facts for those who value them: This is from an AP article in the Chicago Trib on 2/28/10: "In a report released in December 2010, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the average state/local government worker earns $40.10 an hour in salary and benefits. The same report found the average private worker earns $27.68 an hour in salary and benefits. But the report was quick to note that this is not a direct comparison. Government workers tend to be better-educated than their private-sector counterparts, and government jobs are more likely to be professional or managerial as opposed to the many more manufacturing and sales jobs in the private work force. In fact, studies that compare salaries and benefits for similar jobs between the public and private sectors show that government workers lag." "An April 2010 report by the Center for State & Local Government Excellence — a nonpartisan, Washington-based group with Republicans and Democrats on its board of directors — found that in 2008, state workers nationwide earned 11 percent less and local workers earned 12 percent less than private workers with comparable education levels." ([url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-facts-overshadowed-in-debate-over-wis-union-bill-20110228,0,6740935.story?page=2]Facts overshadowed in debate over Wis. union bill - chicagotribune.com[/url]) "Walker claims that Wisconsin is "one of the highest taxed states." His campaign rounds the numbers up to put the state closer to the top 10 and it relies on a researcher’s prediction that is informed but speculative. The campaign also cherry-picks a study by a conservative group that finds business taxes are high, but it does not account for other data that show Wisconsin’s business taxes are middle or low." ([url=http://politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2010/sep/19/scott-walker/scott-walker-says-wisconsin-one-highest-taxed-stat/]PolitiFact Wisconsin | Scott Walker says Wisconsin is one of the highest taxed states in the nation[/url]) " The latest figures from the National Education Association actually put the average salary for a Wisconsin teacher at $51,264. "We couldn't find a definitive, independent state average for benefits in Wisconsin, but the data from the state Department of Public Instruction lists "fringe benefits" by district in Wisconsin. None were as high as $39,000. The median was about $25,800. " In total compensation, Wisconsin ranks 23rd in the nation." "OK, now to the Average Joe or Jane who works in the private sector." "According to a national compensation survey conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the total cost of compensation to private industry employees last year came to about $58,000 ($41,000 for salary; $17,000 for benefits)." "In order to be a teacher in Wisconsin, you've got to have a 4-year college degree. And 52 percent of Wisconsin teachers also have a master's degree. That's much, much higher than the average education level for workers in the private sector. People with higher degrees in education typically get paid more. We found two studies that factored in such things as education level, years of experience, race, gender, etc. and found that public employees tend to make a little less than people with similar backgrounds in the private sector."([url=http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/23/eric-bolling/fox-business-news-eric-bolling-says-wisconsin-teac/]PolitiFact | Fox Business News' Eric Bolling says Wisconsin teachers get compensated nearly double those in private sector[/url]) ("never let the facts get in the way of a good argument") [/QUOTE]
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