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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1059972" data-attributes="member: 18006">Totally agree with both; there's just no arguing it.But remember - things can always change, and change quickly. Just 2 years ago at this time, we were saying exactly the same thing about the Lions. Then what happened? They finally smartened up and hired a very good GM, who set about building a winning culture. He started drafting well, and hired a very good head coach who immediately put together a very good staff. In 3 years, Detroit has emerged as one of the Top 5 teams in the NFL, a serious championship contender for the first time in 70 years.The Vikings appear to be following a similar path - hired a good GM, who hired a very good head coach, and the two of them began building a winning culture. They haven't become as good as Detroit, but they're at an earlier stage, and they have to be taken seriously.The Bears? I dunno. They're still the Bears, until they start to prove that they no longer are. And they're sure not there yet. Far as I'm concerned, jury is still out on Poles, but I give him credit for finally hiring a head coach who has the potential to be great, and - again - is totally committed to building a winning culture. And they've drafted a quarterback who still has a number of question marks, but has the tools to become an elite QB.Of course, the Bears have a track record of destroying young quarterbacks, and that may very well be what happens again. And like I said, I'm not sure bout Poles at all - I really think he's in over his head, because he makes some incredibly stupid personnel decisions, but... sometimes people learn from their mistakes.I think this is the year we find out how good Poles actually is. He made some very bold moves in free agency, but overall his free agency history is uneven, and not particularly impressive. This year's group is very "boom or bust" - if it works, he'll look like a genius, but he took some real risks and committed a lot of salary cap to some players who don't exactly look like bargains. They're going to have to play just about to their maximum potential to justify their contracts.His drafting history is also less than impressive. They only have 7 picks this year, so he's going to have to make every single one of them count, but again they draft in the Top Ten, so he has that going for him.The Bears don't appear to be an immediate threat, but if Ben Johnson succeeds in uniting and motivating the team, and some of Poles' free agents and draft choices turn out to be better than they have, they might become a much tougher team to beat. But I don't think this would be the year yet.</blockquote>

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