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<blockquote data-quote="sschind" data-source="post: 778469" data-attributes="member: 10247"><p>If you are even considering trading up for someone its obviously for a player you think will really help the team so in general I don't have a problem with a move like that. While we may think the player will still be there a dozen or so picks later (like you said we will likely never know) the GM either doesn't think sor he doesn't want to risk it so he makes the move. He is only going to do that with a specific player in mind and only then if its a player he really wants so unless his talent evaluation skills are way off its not a bad move. If he thinks that highly of someone chances may be good that someone else sees it as well. There is such a thing as overpaying and reaching but but when you are talking about that point in the draft I don't know if it applies as much. For all those who thought St. Brown would have been a good 3rd or 4th or 5th round pick what does that say about reaching?</p><p></p><p>That's why I don't fault the Bears GM for moving up the one spot to get Trubisky two years ago. He obviously saw something special and he wanted to make sure he got him. It may not work out but the idea is not flawed. You can play the if game all you want but it goes both ways.</p><p></p><p>Though it didn't involve trading up that's why I agree with Cleveland's decision to run the draft (at least the first pick) this year. You have a guy in mind you want and you think he is the best you do what it takes to get him. I won't listen to arguments about him being the 4th best QB or he would have been there at #4 yada yada because no one else's opinion matters on the subject. People said "take Barkley and get the best QB left at #$) The point here is why let someone else dictate who you will draft, or as someone on NFL.com said "If you have the pick of the litter why settle for the runt" Again it may not work due to the player selected but the idea is still sound. </p><p></p><p> Look at it this way. Would you rather have a GM who identifies a prospect as one who he really thinks will help and makes sure he gets him or one who says "I really like this guy but I'm just gonna sit here and wait and maybe I get him maybe I don't" It depends on if you want an aggressive GM who has a plan in mind and goes after the players he wants or if you want a more passive one who is willing to take what others leave for him. I think Gute is more the former and until his talent evaluation is proven lacking I prefer it that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sschind, post: 778469, member: 10247"] If you are even considering trading up for someone its obviously for a player you think will really help the team so in general I don't have a problem with a move like that. While we may think the player will still be there a dozen or so picks later (like you said we will likely never know) the GM either doesn't think sor he doesn't want to risk it so he makes the move. He is only going to do that with a specific player in mind and only then if its a player he really wants so unless his talent evaluation skills are way off its not a bad move. If he thinks that highly of someone chances may be good that someone else sees it as well. There is such a thing as overpaying and reaching but but when you are talking about that point in the draft I don't know if it applies as much. For all those who thought St. Brown would have been a good 3rd or 4th or 5th round pick what does that say about reaching? That's why I don't fault the Bears GM for moving up the one spot to get Trubisky two years ago. He obviously saw something special and he wanted to make sure he got him. It may not work out but the idea is not flawed. You can play the if game all you want but it goes both ways. Though it didn't involve trading up that's why I agree with Cleveland's decision to run the draft (at least the first pick) this year. You have a guy in mind you want and you think he is the best you do what it takes to get him. I won't listen to arguments about him being the 4th best QB or he would have been there at #4 yada yada because no one else's opinion matters on the subject. People said "take Barkley and get the best QB left at #$) The point here is why let someone else dictate who you will draft, or as someone on NFL.com said "If you have the pick of the litter why settle for the runt" Again it may not work due to the player selected but the idea is still sound. Look at it this way. Would you rather have a GM who identifies a prospect as one who he really thinks will help and makes sure he gets him or one who says "I really like this guy but I'm just gonna sit here and wait and maybe I get him maybe I don't" It depends on if you want an aggressive GM who has a plan in mind and goes after the players he wants or if you want a more passive one who is willing to take what others leave for him. I think Gute is more the former and until his talent evaluation is proven lacking I prefer it that way. [/QUOTE]
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