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<blockquote data-quote="longtimefan" data-source="post: 111132" data-attributes="member: 145"><p>Bates and co. did an outstanding job last year, better than I thought they were going to do.......</p><p></p><p>If he was such an awesome coach why did he not get hired by Miami when he was interviewed there, same situation as with GB..</p><p></p><p>However, it has been said b4, but that #7 ranking last year is not really a TRUE measure on how this D was last year..</p><p></p><p>I might get ripped for this but o well........People have been haging their hat on that #7 ranking and that #1 ranking to much...</p><p></p><p>The main reason they were ranked so high is cuz of the #1 pass D. </p><p></p><p>#1 ya say that is awesome?? Well N.O the Jets and the Browns were ranked right behind the Pack last year..Great group to be together with..</p><p></p><p>Does everyone know how that is ranked, or at least how the NFL ranks the D?? It is by yards given up and that alone, nothing about TDS given up, 1st downs, plays per game..Plain and simple YARDS only...So yeah #1 vs the pass and #7, of yards given up..</p><p></p><p>So ya woohohohoooo PARTY!!!! they gave up least amount of passing and rushing yards...But they were in BOTTOM 3RD of tds given up with 22...</p><p></p><p>Consider this, 3 of the BOTTOM 5 in pass D were playoff teams..</p><p></p><p>4 of the TOP in pass d WERE NOT playoff teams..</p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont care how you slice it, and this really is not an opinion type of debate, these are solid facts that the D was not as special as people think..</p><p></p><p>If you want to look at it for your self..</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular" target="_blank"></a></p><p><a href="http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular" target="_blank">2005 D stats</a></p><p></p><p>Look at the site, go to each section, rushing yards, scoring, 1st downs etc....Packers are ranked either in bottom 3rd or in the middle of almost EVERY stat other than yards given up...Which we all know is what gets the D ranked #1 and #7..</p><p></p><p>notice this is not me bashing Bates at all I think he is outstanding..</p><p></p><p>This is just on how AVERAGE that D was last year...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="longtimefan, post: 111132, member: 145"] Bates and co. did an outstanding job last year, better than I thought they were going to do....... If he was such an awesome coach why did he not get hired by Miami when he was interviewed there, same situation as with GB.. However, it has been said b4, but that #7 ranking last year is not really a TRUE measure on how this D was last year.. I might get ripped for this but o well........People have been haging their hat on that #7 ranking and that #1 ranking to much... The main reason they were ranked so high is cuz of the #1 pass D. #1 ya say that is awesome?? Well N.O the Jets and the Browns were ranked right behind the Pack last year..Great group to be together with.. Does everyone know how that is ranked, or at least how the NFL ranks the D?? It is by yards given up and that alone, nothing about TDS given up, 1st downs, plays per game..Plain and simple YARDS only...So yeah #1 vs the pass and #7, of yards given up.. So ya woohohohoooo PARTY!!!! they gave up least amount of passing and rushing yards...But they were in BOTTOM 3RD of tds given up with 22... Consider this, 3 of the BOTTOM 5 in pass D were playoff teams.. 4 of the TOP in pass d WERE NOT playoff teams.. I dont care how you slice it, and this really is not an opinion type of debate, these are solid facts that the D was not as special as people think.. If you want to look at it for your self.. [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular] 2005 D stats[/url] Look at the site, go to each section, rushing yards, scoring, 1st downs etc....Packers are ranked either in bottom 3rd or in the middle of almost EVERY stat other than yards given up...Which we all know is what gets the D ranked #1 and #7.. notice this is not me bashing Bates at all I think he is outstanding.. This is just on how AVERAGE that D was last year... [/QUOTE]
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