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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 776657" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>Let's resurrect this thread and try again. </p><p></p><p><strong>Quarterback: </strong>There's still no contest here for the #1 spot, but #'s 2 and 3 are tough to sort. Cousins isn't the talent that Stafford is, and yet he's been more productive in the context of a specific system. But he's leaving that system in 2018, while Stafford has continuity with an OC who he has thrived under. I am going to give the edge to Stafford, but you could call this either way.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Packers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Lions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vikings</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bears</li> </ol><p><strong>Running Back: </strong>Some new kids on the block made this an interesting position in 2017. Dalvin Cook, Tarik Cohen, and Aaron Jones made their presence felt in limited opportunities. I still have to go with the Bears here for the top spot, as Howard is the best pure runner in the division and Tarik Cohen proved to be an exceptionally dangerous change of pace option. Behind them, most would probably expect me to give the nod to the Vikings, but I'm going with the Packers. Aaron Jones was more impressive in a worse situation than Cook. He just doesn't have the name recognition. He's a better player and vastly more talented. And I would definitely take Ty Montgomery and Jamaal Williams as backups over Latatvius Murray and whoever ends up being the 3rd guy in Minnesota. Detroit brings up the rear until they prove they shouldn't.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bears</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Packers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vikings</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Lions</li> </ol><p><strong>Wide Receiver: </strong>The Vikings have questionable depth, but their strength in the top two is so good that I have to give them the nod here. Thielen and Diggs did more for Keenum than vice versa. After them, I'm going with Detroit. I think their 11 personnel of Jones, Golladay, and Tate in the slot could be a great look for them. The Packers are 3rd mainly because their 3rd option is so up in the air. Adams is a true #1 IMO, and Cobb is reliable. They have a ton of young talent behind them, but I won't give that credit until someone really emerges. The Bears did a lot to address this situation, but they're still an easy 4th for me. For one, wide receiver is one of the least successful positions in free agency. Robinson is super talented, but the truth is that the campaign that brought him notoriety was three seasons ago. Taylor Gabriel is the other big FA acquisition, but without Kyle Shanahan I don't think he's more than a bit part player. I love their Anthony Miller pick, but again I'm not going to give credit for unrealized potential. Overall, I see 1-3 clumped pretty closely together and the Bears a more distinguished 4th place.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vikings</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Lions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Packers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bears</li> </ol><p><strong>Tight End: </strong>Whereas I think the Bears' additions at WR are overrated, I love the move to acquire Trey Burton. When you add him to Adam Shaheen, I think you have the recipe for some great 12 personnel look. The latter was surprisingly good for a rookie coming from a low level of college competition. After them, I still really like Kyle Rudolph. He's not quite the RZ threat that Graham is, but he's still good in that area while also being a capable blocker. Morgan is a good second TE and Conklin is a nice add via the draft. The aforementioned Graham should be a touchdown machine, but it's an open question how much he will add between the 20's. Kendricks was disappointing last season but he's solid as a #2 and might surprise with a season where he gets to play more with Rodgers. The Lions are a disaster at the position. </p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bears</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vikings</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Packers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Lions</li> </ol><p><strong>Offensive Line: </strong>Despite their losses over recent season, the Packers are #1 because of what they offer at the tackle positions. Bakhtiari is one of the best linemen in the league, let alone in the division. Taylor and Linsley are strong starters. Bulaga is the best RT in the division, and they have several options to hold the fort while he makes it back from injury. McCray's play at guard was promising-- he may be the next guy that Campen develops out of nowhere into a good starting interior OL. I'll give the nod to the Bears for the #2 spot. Leno and Massie are merely average on the edges, but Daniels-Whitehair-Long should be a great trio inside. The Detroit Lions continue to baffle. Decker-Glasgow-Ragnow-Lang-Wagner should be a great line, but they've had all but one of those pieces previously and really underperformed. Until they prove themselves, they're in the 3rd spot. Lastly, the Vikings still have a quietly bad OL. They both overachieved in 2017, while also being helped by scheme. Reiff and Remmers are pass pro liabilities on the edges and no one on the interior is impressive. Di Filippo is going to have hit work cut out for him getting the ball out fast. </p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Packers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Bears</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Lions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vikings</li> </ol><p>I'll post defense later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 776657, member: 12283"] Let's resurrect this thread and try again. [B]Quarterback: [/B]There's still no contest here for the #1 spot, but #'s 2 and 3 are tough to sort. Cousins isn't the talent that Stafford is, and yet he's been more productive in the context of a specific system. But he's leaving that system in 2018, while Stafford has continuity with an OC who he has thrived under. I am going to give the edge to Stafford, but you could call this either way. [LIST=1] [*]Packers [*]Lions [*]Vikings [*]Bears [/LIST] [B]Running Back: [/B]Some new kids on the block made this an interesting position in 2017. Dalvin Cook, Tarik Cohen, and Aaron Jones made their presence felt in limited opportunities. I still have to go with the Bears here for the top spot, as Howard is the best pure runner in the division and Tarik Cohen proved to be an exceptionally dangerous change of pace option. Behind them, most would probably expect me to give the nod to the Vikings, but I'm going with the Packers. Aaron Jones was more impressive in a worse situation than Cook. He just doesn't have the name recognition. He's a better player and vastly more talented. And I would definitely take Ty Montgomery and Jamaal Williams as backups over Latatvius Murray and whoever ends up being the 3rd guy in Minnesota. Detroit brings up the rear until they prove they shouldn't. [LIST=1] [*]Bears [*]Packers [*]Vikings [*]Lions [/LIST] [B]Wide Receiver: [/B]The Vikings have questionable depth, but their strength in the top two is so good that I have to give them the nod here. Thielen and Diggs did more for Keenum than vice versa. After them, I'm going with Detroit. I think their 11 personnel of Jones, Golladay, and Tate in the slot could be a great look for them. The Packers are 3rd mainly because their 3rd option is so up in the air. Adams is a true #1 IMO, and Cobb is reliable. They have a ton of young talent behind them, but I won't give that credit until someone really emerges. The Bears did a lot to address this situation, but they're still an easy 4th for me. For one, wide receiver is one of the least successful positions in free agency. Robinson is super talented, but the truth is that the campaign that brought him notoriety was three seasons ago. Taylor Gabriel is the other big FA acquisition, but without Kyle Shanahan I don't think he's more than a bit part player. I love their Anthony Miller pick, but again I'm not going to give credit for unrealized potential. Overall, I see 1-3 clumped pretty closely together and the Bears a more distinguished 4th place. [LIST=1] [*]Vikings [*]Lions [*]Packers [*]Bears [/LIST] [B]Tight End: [/B]Whereas I think the Bears' additions at WR are overrated, I love the move to acquire Trey Burton. When you add him to Adam Shaheen, I think you have the recipe for some great 12 personnel look. The latter was surprisingly good for a rookie coming from a low level of college competition. After them, I still really like Kyle Rudolph. He's not quite the RZ threat that Graham is, but he's still good in that area while also being a capable blocker. Morgan is a good second TE and Conklin is a nice add via the draft. The aforementioned Graham should be a touchdown machine, but it's an open question how much he will add between the 20's. Kendricks was disappointing last season but he's solid as a #2 and might surprise with a season where he gets to play more with Rodgers. The Lions are a disaster at the position. [LIST=1] [*]Bears [*]Vikings [*]Packers [*]Lions [/LIST] [B]Offensive Line: [/B]Despite their losses over recent season, the Packers are #1 because of what they offer at the tackle positions. Bakhtiari is one of the best linemen in the league, let alone in the division. Taylor and Linsley are strong starters. Bulaga is the best RT in the division, and they have several options to hold the fort while he makes it back from injury. McCray's play at guard was promising-- he may be the next guy that Campen develops out of nowhere into a good starting interior OL. I'll give the nod to the Bears for the #2 spot. Leno and Massie are merely average on the edges, but Daniels-Whitehair-Long should be a great trio inside. The Detroit Lions continue to baffle. Decker-Glasgow-Ragnow-Lang-Wagner should be a great line, but they've had all but one of those pieces previously and really underperformed. Until they prove themselves, they're in the 3rd spot. Lastly, the Vikings still have a quietly bad OL. They both overachieved in 2017, while also being helped by scheme. Reiff and Remmers are pass pro liabilities on the edges and no one on the interior is impressive. Di Filippo is going to have hit work cut out for him getting the ball out fast. [LIST=1] [*]Packers [*]Bears [*]Lions [*]Vikings [/LIST] I'll post defense later. [/QUOTE]
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